15 Aug 2014 19:16:53
negitive post and all I am sorry. glad leeds are on telly tomorrow and hope all leeds fans who have not seen the mighty white see tomorrow. I predict shambolic defending, none exsitant marking, hoof ball with no penertration. A game plan that is not understood by anyone. some running with no real clue, disjointed and lack of heart and passion. 3-0 loss. I will be in the pub with shirt on with pride. I will be only leeds fan and expect to get laughed at and I don't mind. But after you all see and if I am right please all get off my back for my dislike of the hock. hope I am wrong hope we win every game and go up and hock is so good he leaves us for england. but think he will get sacked and we will not have a win under his leadership. This post is up here to get shot down and I hope you all do when I am wrong. if not when are we all starting the hock out chants. I started mine 15 minutes into the millwall game I think I gave hock 14 minutes more than he deserved

1.) 15 Aug 2014
I do like reading your posts bermondsey!

2.) 15 Aug 2014
15 Aug 2014 20:01:52
Flippin eck Berm but you're entitled to your view, just hope you're wrong fella! MOT

3.) 15 Aug 2014
Can I postpone my reply until Sunday? :)

4.) 15 Aug 2014
So you gave a new manager who is probably not even influencing the team 15 mins. Well done son, pat yourself on the back. I appreciate you don't go to many games but do you realise how many games there are in a domestic season? You're quite entitled to your opinion but you're getting a bit boring now!
MM

5.) 15 Aug 2014
I hope I am wrong too. and sorry if I am getting bit boring just really angry this guy is our manager and can't wait till he is sacked. if I am right and he is the walking joke I predict I expect a few people to say wow bermondsey you know your football and called that well. I also expect mc to give me a say in our next coach appointment

6.) 15 Aug 2014
Not having a go bermondsey but who else out there would you have liked? We had 2 so called proven managers and lookow good we was with them, this bloke is a coach, he will improve the players. This team given the chance to gel will be flying by jan, he will improve the players and the football we play, hoofball is long gone from elland road pal

7.) 15 Aug 2014
Agree Gareth. MC will only have a coach - and the vast majority of other candidates would not be interested in that type of role. It's going to be a complete change for us, so let's wait at least 10/15 matches and see

8.) 16 Aug 2014
"Negative vibes man, negative vibes"

9.) 16 Aug 2014
Who would I rather have. literally anyone, I do not know/couldn't think of a worse manager and all my Millwall mates have tried to look for someone with a worse non-league record and couldn't find anyone. the manager/coach argument is a good point maybe hock was appointed because no one else would do that role as it is a very european approach. that don't mean I have to be happy with his appointment. I would rather any younger coach with potential. any other manager with real league experience. My choices would of included, Kenny Jacket, Eddie Howe, Alex McCleash, Malky Mckay, Martin O'Neil, Simon Grayson (think best manager we have had since Wilkinson rated him loads), Steve Clarke or even warnock or McDermot all have better c.v. and quality you can't argue with that. Even an Italian who would be better and agree with the coach role. Hock is english but has no experience so might as well get Italian. Hoofball hasn't gone one league game and ball was in the air more than on deck. If in 10/15 matches we are so bad you lot are calling for his head I want retractions. you lot should have more faith in me and less in hock, it would seem I have better pedigree and experience, I have won fantasy leagues and football bets which makes me more qualifed in predicting football than hock is as a coach

10.) 16 Aug 2014
Bermondsey, you all want us to get off your back if you are right which is fair enough (I personally don't share your view and think Hock is a decent coach and I am happy to give him a chance), but what if you are wrong? What do we get? Can I suggest that if for some reason you are wrong and Leeds play decent football along the ground, with passion and a good game plan that the players understand, you stop posting any more on this site? We are bored of your criticism
I think that is fair, anyone else agree?

11.) 16 Aug 2014
Bermondsey
NO ones having a go at you mate, just voicing an opinion same as you are and entitled to it.
You made it clear you don't like the Hock and i'm sure if the performances don't get any better by the end of sept he will be gone.
MC has said we are not very good at the moment so he's NOT planning on pushing for play-offs this season.
Dont let the Hock take your mind off why we are on this site, rumours and banter mate.

CHIN UP B & enjoy the match I love your posts when your not moaning lol

12.) 16 Aug 2014
Ok I do see your point I have gone bit hock crazy, just very dissapointed and would go as far to say disgusted that he is anywhere near our team let alone the head coach, been getting so much stick and banter my end, which I normally don't mind but not when it is almost embarrasing, maybe it is a london thing, millwall put up banner saying f@@k off lomas the day he signed and I would be 100% behind same thing for the Hock to let MC know we are behind him but will not allow sub-standard appointments, we have been joke for long enough, the light is at the end of the tunnel MC is the guy to take us forward but he needs help and wants to be in charge (hence bad appointment as hock will take what others would not look at what happened to tony pulis). Kebabman I make a promise if we do well under hock I will post once more saying I was wrong and how I love him, if we is sacked and I was right I want a post from you saying how clever I am and was right all along then think you need to never post again. I am man enough to say when wrong and happy to hang up my posting boots, you happy to make the same call? what shall we say as a deal? I think if we are lower than mid table by christmas? of if hock is sacked with less that 45% league win rate? that a deal. Happy to negoitate on what terms one of us retires from this site? Any MOT is witness. I love leeds and always cheered on team through thick and thin but hock appointment was too much for me to take

13.) 16 Aug 2014
Thing what gets me when people say we've tryed proven managers yes they were proven given any sort of budget not 100 k n an IOU for crews next best and free transfers thing is look at who mcd had at reading warnock had at qpr sheff unt lufc4life

14.) 16 Aug 2014
I did post but it don't think it got through. Kebabman, I am happy to accept that. If I am wrong I will post a retraction saying I was wrong and never post again. I am big enough to admit when wrong. I am normally very postivie and every 2 year I put a tenner on england winning and every year I put a tenner on leeds going up and a leeds player as top scorer (won last year well pleased with RMc) this year I haven't and think that says it all. If I am right kebabman will you never post again? think it is fair for you to call it, but only if your prepared to not post again either. Andy MOT can be witness. I hope I am wrong I would rather leeds be good and me not post than other way round but how confident are you Kebabman. I am confident that the hock is that bad we will still be hearing from me in 6 months but you will be a long gone like last nights drunken kebab. then I will be able to support our next manager but so angry that hock is anywhere near out team let alone the head guy and I can't let this one go. sorry but I just cant. so kebabman you in? because I am

15.) 16 Aug 2014
Great post shaddit. simon grayson was amazing look at the team he built (with some good player brought in by gary Mac) no budget losing best players with no money to replace. Then Neil I get teams out of this league warnock. Neil is great at this level but had hands tied same with McDermot (who I was bit dissapointed when he lost his job) all these proven managers where just that proven with a track record which suggests their faliures where due to the club not them as they have done it else where. As I keep saying if young and unproven I would give hock time but he is 56 and has been a c.v. and track record in easier league with massive budget. Said before MC wants an Italian coach but thought it best to go English first so appointed a fall guy, then when it don't work out MC will say went english didn't work now let's try Italian. hopefuly one proven who players will play for (hock has cost this club players as they will not play for him) just dissapoint hock said yes. I use to be lead in west end musicals I was offered role in new tour of blood brothers but said no as I know I am no longer upto it and would be bad and would get bad reviews. People need to know limits, I wouldn't put myself up for bad press and let other cast down. I feel hock is letting leeds down by taking job he must know he can't do

16.) 16 Aug 2014
In the name of banter. oi kebabman. you're not posting anymore.you're not posting anymore. you only post when hock is winning post when he is winning. and finally shall I write a post for you. shall I write a post for you

17.) 16 Aug 2014
Apologies for not posting straight away, having a life got in the way.
Your request was to not have any stick should you be right about the Hock which I agree to, my request was that you stop posting should you be wrong, you have added another concession to the negotiation, are you Agards agent?
Not sure why I would need to stop posting, my opinions are rational and based on common sense unlike yours

18.) 16 Aug 2014
Thats out of line kebabman, we both have opinions. to say mine is not based on common sense and not rational is not rational in itself. my opinions of hockaday come from what he has said, what I have seen of his team (both are very little) and four years of forest green and a 56 year career. based on facts, stats and common sense. so out of line there mate. you said will I accpect to not posting I said yes, will you? I will be a man and stand up say I was wrong and not post, you can't call someone out then not be called out yourself are you carl forch? now what you put about my posts was wrong. so let's see who end up showing common sense and rational opinions and who is wrong. loser stops posting? what you have put about me in bit unjust I have four years of forest green results to back me up.

19.) 16 Aug 2014
I guess I win after today's performance and result!
Bye bye BW