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29 Sep 2014 20:42:04
The September Correct Score Comp has now finished well done to the winners;

1) wembley78 26 points
=2) rosowl 24 points
=2) Grahamd80 24 points


Thanks to everyone who has taken part - The table for the October monthly comp will be reset before weekend and the overall league table has been updated,Once again thanks for taking part and a reminder everyone is welcome to join in.

Cheers and good luck.

Ed 003

* Please don't reply to this post take any q's to the comp page *

Ed 003   Ed 003
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29 Sep 2014 18:48:29
So Redders is being linked to Barnsley. Probably for a managers role, didn't see that coming when he didn't get the head coachs role.

Lets just see if his invaluability to the club and the academy keeps him here (if the rumours are true of course)

Could all be paper talk though

d.s.

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Can't see redders going anywhere

mr jenks

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Hope not true but if it is no way he will stay, ex player and upgrade to managers job wish him well and sad to see him go but no chance he will stay

Bermondsey White Bermondsey White

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To lose Redders is a travesty imo. Can you imagine what Cellino will do to our academy & who will run it.
Neil Redfern should have been given job of 1st team coach & brought back Paul hunt, Bromby etc to run academy with Redders overseeing. Now a demoralised Redfern will listen to offers & if there's 1 job he'd take it's Barnsley as it has great memories for him there. Redders deserved his chance & knew the consequences if it went pear shaped. Now Cellino thinks he's doing us & Redders a favour by keeping him at academy. Well he's wrong as all he's done is demoralised the bloke.
Our academy is the last remaining good thing at lufc which is giving us future hope & it's possible MC will ruin it. I only hope he gave Redders a bigger better & worthwhile contract for his work here. To top it off if any of you have seen our U16s you will know we have some very special talent in there which is far better thancurrent U21s potentially speaking. The whole academy know it & are so excited about them after 3 U16s played in U18s other day.
We stand to lose so much if Redders goes as all our juniors will start looking around for better clubs & maybe even end up with Redders at Barnsley if reports are true. Cellino is such an idiot at times. Yea dona a lot of good but structure & morale at lufc is at an all time low & a complete mess. He's his & our own worst enemy right now.

sloughwhites

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That had to be the worst possible scenario. You forgot to mention the part about Cellino wanting to eat our children.

We have to accept that Redders is going to be linked to other clubs. Most of those other clubs will be dissuaded by the compensation that Leeds will ask for in return. If Reading can ask for 400k for Eamonn Dolan, we can ask for at least 1m for Redders. If we learned anything from the Ross transfer, MC & co can negotiate a transfer.

Also, I don't think Redders will take just any job to be the lead guy. He acknowledges that he needs resources.

Anyhow, I hope he stays long term and that we don't lose him. He's a tremendous asset to the club.

virginiawhites

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I don't recall anywhere Redfearn suggesting he wanted the top job full time. In fact, it's been the opposite. He seems to enjoy his academy (will likely have won himself a nice bonus with his first team brief) and is back to his day job. Far less pressure and more time doing what he ultimately loves which is coaching, minus a lot of the politics.
Hope I'm not wrong but, I said before the summer that Redfearn shouldn't be given the manager's job as he's too valuable to the academy.

CityWhite

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Redfearn has said he would like to be a manager, BUT in time! Not now he has business to finish at Leeds and from the interviews I have seen and read he is happy doing what he is doing. Where has it been said he is demoralised?

PeteMOT

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26 Sep 2014 11:48:44
Graham Bean (consultant to the club) has been sacked. Something to do with the re-scheduling of the Reading Match on Wednesday.

The fact that we play Sheff Wed on Saturday at 12.15 and Mr Cellino is not happy. He wasnt around when it was done.

Popey reporting it on Twitter

Lifelongleedsfan

lifelongleedsfan

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He moved the game and only gives us 2 days to rest before Sheffield so I can see why he is unhappy. Reading asked for the game to be moved as they would only have 2 days rest before they played us!

Also if you believe we are going to get a transfer embargo in the Jan window do we need to be paying a contracts guys wages when there are no contracts to draw up?

lufc spain lufc spain

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I see that as an excuse & not reason to sack him. More to it. Just wish MC would stop the drama's every week. None of this helps with FL on our backs, press reporting badly about him. Players need no distractions now ffs. So we got 3 games in a week, big squad, playing well & a break after it. Stop with the drama's when we're doing well. MC sometimes his own worst enemy.
I can only assume this is to do with FPP & Bean may have spoken to Harvey or along those lines. If so deserved to go but really poor unbelieveable excuse to sack him. Enough nonsense now. Concentrate on football now

sloughwhites

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It's because Sheff game is on Sky.

Massimo wants us to look good so we can get more games.

Possible hangover to Rotherham game (also on Sky)

WillTrain

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He should have been sacked, no football players can recover from a game in 2 days.
Let alone from a game against Reading leading into a derby.

MC employed him before summer he's helped with transfers but if he should have spoken to Massimo and hasn't why is he trying to make such important decisions.

Points are hard to come by in the Championship and there are close margins at the end of the season.

WillTrain

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There is another way of looking at this

what the hell has it to do with us?

if a person is sacked in any other company it is nothing to do with anyone other than the company sacking and the ex employee.

Why we see people jumping up and down and going on about unity and stability and making waves blah blah blah blah blah when we know absolutely nothing of what went on.

Why should MC explain every move he makes within lufc. Last time I looked it was his company not a publicly shared company, although it has public interest.

In any other club this would have barley got a mention but here mischievous twitter trolls and cheap journalists make it a sh*t storm.

lufc spain lufc spain

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Massive amount of conjecture, there, Slough.
A consultant can be got rid of whenever you want. Not a full time employee and it is a perfctly good reason to get rid of him. Only giving us two days prep so that another team have an extra day rest before playing us doesn't do us any favours at all so, Bean's actions weren't in the best interests of the team. On top of that, it's Reading who were pretty loud about telling Cellino to do one when he was after their academy boss. This is a non-story. Won't materially affect anything and plenty of people could be brought in to do a similar job on short term contract basis.

CityWhite

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Slough
We are in one of the best periods I can remember in a long, long time. Don Cellino is doing such great work for us. Why do you feel the need to be so critical? I agree with Spain that this is a minor internal matter. It has nothing to do with the football. For the second time this week I am disgusted with Phil Hay and Adam Pope. Why on earth have they given this so much air time but to cause trouble. If I were Don Cellino I would stop talking to them and then they'd be out of jobs.

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Well done Massimo for getting rid, our club isThis is just another example of how consultants and the like seem to think they have the power to do as they like with no consequences. I am sure he was aware of how Massimo works and a decision like that was not his to make.Well done Massimo for getting rid it was people like Mr Bean who got us into the mess we were in to start with. Maybe it will make other employees realise that the priority is the team,

BIGE

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This is totally irrelevant to anything to do with the team

SpeedygRIP SpeedygRIP

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24 Sep 2014 12:14:29
Judge in Italy has made the decisions known re her ruling, FL may well now start again against MC even though MC is appealing the ruling so they should wait as I believe in Italian Law this is still early stages and MC not judged guilty yet (unlike our law system).

Of course the FL do appear over eager on this as we know so I'm pretty sure they will be jumping on this asap.

DG the voice of reason

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24 Sep 2014 12:25:04
I've just read something similar myself, Harvey seems content on getting Cellino out of Leeds United. Would it be possible for him to name Ercole or Edoardo as main owners! The tax case isn't against them afterall and they have already been granted Directors approval?

roffeyleeds

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Yes, it would seem it's one law for us and another for the rest of football and I think the FL will be still smarting at their defeat to Cellino's original appeal. No doubt the press will be all over this scare mongering and penning utter garbage. I suppose it sells their papers. Who say's we're not famous anymore?!

MM

Mad Mick Mad Mick

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I read somewhere and it said MC cannot sell to anyone who he may have influence over regarding the running of the Club. This apparently is further to the Oyston saga at Blackpool.

PeteMOT

PeteMOT

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The FL do not have it their own way. If MC can buy a company in UK, register with HMRC and pay dues, then the FL are on dodgy ground. It may well be that FL do try, but an appeal from MC would win the day .
Interesting times ahead.

WRover

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FL on very dodgy ground - Can you imagine the fallout from the media, FL having found MC "improper", he appeals AND wins, runs Leeds, like he has for the last 6 months, then found "dishonest", FL try and get him out of Leeds. How "improper" of the FA is that!!
FL corrupt??
Surely it's time that the FL was investigated - You have more corruption going on in the game NOW, with fit & proper test - What was it like before??
Come on FL, leave us alone!!

DAZWHITE1919

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If he's allowed to trade in the UK, (which he is), if he's allowed to buy any business he likes, (which he can), and if he's allowed to register with HMRC and other regularity bodies, ( can't see why not ) then I don't see FL or PL having grounds for any refusal. That's what I have been trying to say.

WRover

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25 Sep 2014 15:49:35
hi i'm 32 and i'm a leeds fan the fl dose nt like leeds and they wld do any think to get leedsutd out of the football league and all this that they r having a go MC he is doing the best job leeds in a long time. the fl r trying to get MC out of the league if leeds get done for this then Birmingham City should get done as well and if u ask why the fl r having a go at MC about this boat thing and all he could get is a fine but the owner of Birmingham City is in jail and he is still aloud to run the club so the fl need to pull they finger out of they butt and leave leeds alone

Acefan82

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In my opinion, neither the FL or MC have a strong case, rules are rules but the spirit of enforcing those rules on someone who has and is investing in a club as MC is doing needs to be questioned. The case could be drawn out have numerous iterations and cost FL and Leeds a lot of money. My suspicion is it could also undermine the whole system. Therefore if MC is convicted of dishonesty in Italy, but considering his current good work for Leeds United and it's impact on the FL, would a suspended sentence not server a better purpose? It would be a victory for both parties and keep MC in check should his actions become less than go honourable or dishonest?

R081e

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It's a tricky one for FL. The wording of the rule basically says that an owner fails the fit and proper persons test if they have 'unspent convictions for dishonesty'.
In other words; having a conviction for dishonesty is not enough. That person would have to have been found guilty and currently be serving the sentence handed down to be deemed 'unfit'.
If Cellino gets a suspended custodial sentence, FL will try and block him.
If Cellino gets a fine and pays it with no commuted sentence, I can't see that FL would have any reason to reapply the test.
That Cellino's lawyer has lodged a formal appeal citing a great many problems with the latest ruling in his fraud case just prolongs the waiting. Personally, I think he should just pay a big fine and be done with it. Must have cost a fortune in lawyers, already but it's probably not the money that's driving his actions in this, more a point of honour. Italians, eh?

CityWhite

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Oh and on the 'can buy any company' argument. Think of FL as a private members club. They can't stop anyone owning a football club, that would be a restriction of trade but, they can apply their own rules to determine whether that football club gets it's 'share ticket' allowing the team to compete.
If the club's owner is banned, FL can't force them to sell but, owner would have to have very deep pockets to keep a football club running without the revenue of actually playing football.

CityWhite

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Also to add if it is just a fine he has got that is regarded as spent after 12months under UK law. If he can drag this out some more??

lufc spain lufc spain

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Lufc spain, good point, and the conviction will be considered, under UK law, to be "spent" in March next year :)

AL_StaffordWhite

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That's quite right LUFC Spain, but it won't get into the 12 months until fine is paid, not as you seem to suggest at commencement of proceedings. And of course if it turns out to be a custodial sentence, even a "Suspended" one that's a whole new ball game.

WRover

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24 Sep 2014 09:01:41
From newspaper this morning - Sturm Graz midfielder Anel Hadzic could become Milanics first signing. Anybody know who this guys is? any good?

RhinosWhitesUnite

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25 Sep 2014 11:29:04
do we really need another midfield player he's 25 good age but we have lots in the position

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23 Sep 2014 21:38:58
Darko 2yr contract by lufc

confirmed by offical Leeds utd twitter account not on OS yet

lufc spain   lufc spain
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22 Sep 2014 11:54:56
MC confirms Darko is new LUFC coach 2yr deal

lufc spain   lufc spain
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Nothing on OS yet spain

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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Os is light years behind twitter buddy but was it correct? yes I think so

lufc spain lufc spain

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I hope so pal

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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Just hope he sticks with the young players

mr jenks

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Deal done offical lufc twitter account posting

lufc spain lufc spain

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I'm excited by our new coach but a little worried at the same time after reading a interview with him were he stated he prefers experience over youth and thinks that we blood the youngsters far too early in this country and in his opinion it ruins there progress.

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22 Sep 2014 09:46:30
My sister is A chef at Marriat Leeds and she said she had Milanic in their Lastnight I also have a picture of him but can't upload it on here

Leedskurt

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Could any 1 tell me why adryan hasn't been on the pitch yet?

mr jenks

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21 Sep 2014 16:08:03
Elland Road to be purchased early November. Stadium purchase is excluded from FFP (purchase of fixed, depreciable assets are not counted).
Oh and on the FFP transfer embargo rubbish; an embargo would begin 1st Jan 2015 and last until club can demonstrate it is fiscally sound. So, presumably if Harvey is determined, he can stop us buying and selling players for a whole day. However, it is still possible Leeds may get fined, although, given where the business is now, compared with 12 months ago, it could be argued that such a fine is unnecessarily punitive. So says a chap I know at t'FA - we were both drunk, mind.

CityWhite

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The fa will use any excuse to punish leeds its been going on for at least 45 years,

barnsley white

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MC knows exactly what he is doing, a business man as rich and savvy as him does not spend money lightly & buying back the stadium is all part of proving Leeds are heading back into financial stability. The FA can hate us all they want, they cannot however argue with figures in black & white showing the club is now clearly being managed correctly. don't think MC is too bothered about the FA afterall he is 1-0 up on them already. MOT

Jorvikwhite

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City
Drunken chat about leeds that's my kinda night, loved to have been a fly on the wall lol

Andy MOT Andy MOT

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Believe it or not; not everyone hates us. Some people are (and I know this is going to be tough for anyone to even contemplate but. ) some people, even in the FA, are actually. now make sure you're sitting down for this. some people are. indifferent towards us!
'Came as a shock to me, too.
It's just a shame that the media enjoy portraying both fans and club negatively.
For instance; Cellino gets referred to as 'controversial Leeds chairman', whilst Oyston at Blackpool doesn't even get an adjective.

CityWhite

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Seems that M c himself has noticed how certain media portrays him, hence when was the last time he spoke to Sky!
Every one seems to have an opinion on Leeds ex-players etc in regards to M C, and ok he dropped the ball when he assigned the coaches job to D H .
But the hope we have winning games without certain squad players, unknown foreign players, actually doing very well and becoming favourites, the future for once is starting to look bright, a young squad yes, an improving squad yes, sound finances yes .
How many years has it been?

dogwise

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Just thought, I know we are being hit for ffp as GFH ran the club with such large debts. Currently David Haigh is sat in a prison for false invoicing and the auditors at Leeds resigned a week or so back. If Leeds united are a victim of fraudulent crime would this amount (not sure if its big or small) be taken into consideration. If not I can imagine possible legal action from the club. Its been a while since we had a court case.

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21 Sep 2014 07:36:16
Translated from Sturm Graz O/S
Co-coach NOVICA Nikcevic also coming

Darko Milanic left Sturm Graz will today in Leeds to clarify the final details with the club head. General Manager Gerhard Goldbrich says: "He gets a huge opportunity in England, we don't spank him."

20.09.2014 ¦ 13:09 ' (DiePresse.com)

Leeds/Ried.The farewell by Darko Milanic as coach of the Austrian Bundesliga Sturm Graz is imminent. As the newspaper "Yorkshire Evening Post" reported on Saturday that the Slovene should on Sunday after England travel, sign a contract with Leeds United and take the training with the second division as early as next week.


Mazhar is an offer of the Club. Did coach Mazhar and his (still) employer Sturm Graz confirmed on Saturday evening before the staunch of the Styrians against SV Ried. "I got an offer from them (Leeds, NB) get", Mazhar said. Storm victory 90 minutes later happy with 1-0. A parting gift?

Leeds is already waiting

Storm announced via Twitter and Facebook: "Darko Milanic there is an offer from Leeds, England. Also the SK storm must reach a request from England." The three times English champions of Leeds has a 3-0 on Saturday afternoon in the second power stage (Championship)-celebrated a home win against Huddersfield Town and eleven improved the table in place.

It probably is: Mazhar flies on Sunday, as already reported by many English media, Leeds.

The earlier storm Defender Mazhar won four times the Slovenian Championship and three times the Cup victory as a coach with NK Maribor from 2008 to 2013. In the summer of the previous year, he received a contract with the "blacky 's" by 2016, it since then but failed, to get the Club on the road to success. Last season, it passed five, making an international launch site was missed after a lamentable early Europacup-Out against the Icelandic representative Breidablik Go ahead place. Currently, the Styrians are at the seventh place. Storm League record with Mazhar stands at 15 WINS, 11 draws and 18 defeats.

"'S is probably the way to the island probably will", said storm General Manager Gerhard Goldbrich during the Bundesliga game in Ried. "Mazhar Gets a huge opportunity in England, we do not To want to beat him." Leeds wants to poach also whose co-coach NOVICA Nikcevic therefore in addition to Mazhar.

According to Goldbrich, storm has already begun the search for a successor to Mazhar. "The requirement profile is clearly defined. We look around us after these types of coach."

SouthernWhite

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20 Sep 2014 13:51:40
Have heard Sharp to be benched today in favour of Mowatt & Doukara to partner Antennucci up front

Mel Sterlands body double

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Appears I heard wrong! It's not Mowatt, it's Sloth.

Mel Sterlands body double

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Mowatt was in contention for a place in the XI, but was carrying a knock. That was a pretty special performance today.

virginiawhites

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21 Sep 2014 08:01:06
Sharp didn't get on, feel sorry for the lad too when antenucci an doukara are firing. Thought sloth, bianchi, antenucci, doukara and cook was different level, huddersfield didn't offer much going forward but bellusci an co did well

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19 Sep 2014 22:30:41
I have a source close to ER who says that Darko Milanic is all signed and sealed and will be announced on Monday.

lifelongleedsfan

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Is he Phil Hay or a ssn reporter by any chance?

SpeedygRIP SpeedygRIP

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Was on N-now yesterday!!

Andy MOT Andy MOT

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Radio Leeds reporting it to be true now just sorting his severance pay apparently!?
Bloody Good News if true! Happy days in my eyes!

and m

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19 Sep 2014 21:47:40
Darko Milanic according to SPN.

Andy64

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Not happy. More unsettlement in the squad 'till he gets to know the players/English football/Championship.
Highs to lows for fans once more.

Made in Leeds

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What would have made you happy Made in Leeds?

SpeedygRIP SpeedygRIP

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Some people are just not happy!

lifelongleedsfan

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So you would rather have stuck with the clown hockaday? It's unsettled now until someone is appointed full time and least this guys got pedigree so we will only get better MOT

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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16 Sep 2014 23:32:42
Looks like it's Darko Milanic as new head coach.

Il cacciatore   Il cacciatore
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Apparently not!

bunglebin

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He's distanced himself from job and said there's been no contact from leeds.

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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I think it's going to be a waiting game, at least we are looking at a better standard of candidate .
Sabella would have been my choice as he is available, as I don't think Clarke is in the running!shame.
I do believe M C has learnt his lesson, so I can't see it being one of the ex-player names being banged about .
Great result last night, SD looks good and what a free kick MR B.MOT

dogwise

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What a strike from a centre back, thing is dog there only going to get better and better the more they play together and get used to this league. Under the right guidance I think we're going to be awsome maybe not all this season but next season they will be talking about us been the team to watch. Can I also say Mr silvestri the cat what a guy MOT

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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Totally agree Martyn, I have always tried to be positive, must be my work!
But the Gk is really looking the part other players beginning to settle, I do wonder whether GB is making the little errors as he don't trust certain other players to cover, just a thought .
He seems to be going for everything, but then I have not seen the whole games in all cases .
Can not wait for Boy Wonder to hit the pitch, another couple of wins and the confidence will improve, which will help .

dogwise

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Signing of the season so far? Our keeper looks and performs like a star player. His performances suggest the defence is still learning to play with one another but if our CB, s keep playing with the skill and passion shown we are going to be back to the days of wood gate and Ferdinand!

TeeCee

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16 Sep 2014 22:02:54
DARKO MILANIC NEXT LEEDS COACH

DAZWHITE1919

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16 Sep 2014 22:28:30
Cracking CV though.

scoops scoops

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The bookies certainly think it's true this time

SpeedygRIP SpeedygRIP

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17 Sep 2014 06:21:48
I think someone has been doctoring his wpedia page

scoops scoops

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Would rather have Sabella

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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Think I would prefer Steve Clark

micky b

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16 Sep 2014 19:16:21
Alejandro Sabella has applied for the Leeds job

Speedo

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15 Sep 2014 21:18:47
Del Fabro and Montenegro international clearance received.

GeorgeIntegrityWhitebread   GeorgeIntegrityWhitebread
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I believe I am correct in saying both players played yesterday in dev squad, mont scored but I can not find any write ups about the game!

dogwise

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Did you at least fond out the end score dog?

Martyn_g Martyn_g

Ed013{Ed013's Note - I believe it was 3-1}

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Yeah ed you are correct 3-1 mont, morison, can't remember other scorer .

dogwise

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Score was 3-1 Montenegro scored and Morrison not sure of other goalscorer. Monty had a good game and Del boy looks assured so report said

BIGE

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I heard neither would be travelling with tonight's squad but I guess there still working on there fitness

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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Other scorer was kalvin philips.montenegro had a good game pacey and showed some good vision, del fabro was a little slow but barnsleys forwards were very quick.overall a good performance.

tingley lufc

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Thanks guys, I don't think either will be in team tonight as Martyn has said, but nice to hear that up and coming as well as squad players are showing promise.

dogwise

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Dog none will play.The first team left thorpe arch yesterday at 13:15

tingley lufc

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15 Sep 2014 14:55:26
Hearing that Alejandro Sabella could be in line for a return to Leeds! (ex player in the 80's for us). Just done a good job for Argentina at world cup + has club management exp (not in England mind).

Now that would be interesting if true!

DG the voice of reason

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Would be excellent, but very much doubt he'd come back to us

mr jenks

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Yes not long seen that one, well let's face it a step up from D H .
I recon Redders to sort next two games, poss new boss in on sat .
M C has said next coach foreign .

dogwise

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Massive massive state of intent if he pulls this one off.

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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Wow! Our last manager had been out of work for nine months after being sacked as Forest Green Rovers and now we're going to replace him with the man who got to the World Cup final? Thanks for letting me know (PS - send me your bank account details and I'll send you a fiver for imparting this wonderful piece of news #gullible).

Spikey John

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16 Sep 2014 11:40:14
I heard a similar rumor on the newsnow site, it had a quote from the man himself stating that the Leeds United job was an interesting one, as he felt he still had unfinished buisness with our mighty club (to paraphrase).
He might still baulk at the wages on offer though.

citizenkez

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Yes he is making all the right noises it would be from one extreme to another and M C has sort of made a hint with looking at a foreign coach with international experience comment .

dogwise

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15 Sep 2014 12:09:57
Alejandro Sabella has come in to the betting at 8/1, used to play for us for a short spell and was Argentina Manager for 3 years taking them to this years World Cup Final.

Now that would be a real statement of intent from Massimo who has said he is looking foe a "Foreign, international type manager"

Hope this 2 and 2 really makes 4

Oxwhite   Oxwhite
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15 Sep 2014 09:49:09
Jose Riga is set to become our new head coach. Blackpool don't want him and are going to let him leave for nothing. Cellino saw how he got Carlton playing football last year when they passed us off the park at Elland Road at the back end of last season. He also developed young players like poyet and MC thinks he can do the same with Cook.

Oh Garry Garry

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MC quoted as saying it's going to be a continental coach

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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Did you see them on saturday?
They played better than I've seen them at ages.
Stringing passes for fun.

WhiteyWhite

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14 Sep 2014 14:21:41
doukara has signed 3 year deal good signing done well since his been here really impressed
MOT

irish leeds fan!

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He signed on tranfer deadline day so one of the others could come on loan as our loan quota would have been full.

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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There is no limit as to how many loan players a club can have, can be 20 if club want. BUT only 5 can be named in any matchday squad.

WRover

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It obviously fitted his plans to sign him and I for one am glad because the lad looks quality and puts a shift in too.

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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10 Sep 2014 13:01:41
Jimmy Floyd interested in the job apparently as well! I wonder just how many are? Wish the Chief would come and declare his interest.

Damoon

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Lucas as coach, now that would be nice.

Monstermind

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I wouldn't be too averse to that. Hasslebaink and Radebe. attack and defence. nice.

strandloper

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What makes people think Lucas would be the answer for our coach? As much as I love the guy, it doesn't follow that he will make great coach . I would love to see him involved in some capacity, but head coach without the experience? I would hate for him to come and fail then get slagged off and lose his Messiah like status . Don't say people wouldn't do it because they would . let's keep Lucas on his pedestal where he belongs, its not worth the risk .

Thailand White

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"let's keep Lucas on his pedestal where he belongs, its not worth the risk" .

Nonsense. Lucas would be a fantastic coach, he would command respect, he is a born leader, as he was on the field. Players would put themselves on the line for him. For me its a no brainer, and yes he has his coaching certs.
Go get him MC

Procedentes Una

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Radebe would be good to have involved as our defensive coach but not as head coach, no experience.

FloquetDeNeu

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What the hell is it with the press, James Betties just parted company with Accrington Stanley after a string of poor results, now he's one of the front runners for The Leeds job, are they taking the p-ss or what, why the hell would we want another unproven, lower league coach,

rhino

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10 Sep 2014 12:26:31
Got a whisper last night that Clarke has the job but won't be announced before Thursday/Friday.

DicknotDom

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Hope your right on this one pal as we stability now.

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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Bet you he doesn't my money is on redfearn

mr jenks

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Hope your right but can't see it, makes no sense to get the guy most people want, to end speculation but keep it under your hat. odd if ture

Bermondsey White Bermondsey White

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According to a very slow national newspaper he's turned it down. Shame if he has he might have been a good appointment

Cornish White

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Wait till early next week wink wink

Andy MOT Andy MOT

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Friday came. friday went.

trev c

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09 Sep 2014 14:59:47
Robbie Fowler applies for Leeds head coach job.

ebo84

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He is still being paid from his time at Leeds as a player! (only kidding) He is on the list of players who took the money whilst we were struggling.

MorleyWhite

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I'd rather have hockaday!

froggy

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Think mc will give it to redfearn

mr jenks

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Morley white- fowler didn't take the money while wevwrte struggling, he said pay me back when u can cause I don't need the money

Delboy4

Ed013{Ed013's Note - Fowler is using Leeds to let people out there know he wants a job}

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Agreed Ed - that's the main point

Marktenjag

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It's getting ridiculous how many ex players are linked to the Head coach job, Hassailbank, Matteo, Fowler etc - the sooner Massimo decides, the better!

SCW78

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08 Sep 2014 13:12:34
Leeds utd in court again today

pagliara

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Football league not happy at the amount of young prodigies we've signed. Cook, Sloth, Adyran, Benedicic etc.

SMitchell8

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Hearing it has been dismissed

lufc spain lufc spain

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Must be furious with Chelsea then

mr jenks

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4912 /2014 is the court listing
under
leeds united football club ltd

anyone else any more info?

lufc spain lufc spain

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Will be in court again at end of year for speeding to the prem (well if 11 odd years is speeding)

Bermondsey White Bermondsey White

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It was a winding up order that was dismissed but it doesn't say who tried does anyone have any clues?

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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It was just a rubber - stamping, nothing to worry about

bunglebin

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07 Sep 2014 17:15:02
Tony Mowbray apparently is in talks with Massimo Cellino

Speedo

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07 Sep 2014 20:19:57
Hope not Mowbray is dull as ditch water - would sooner have Hockaday back.

Paolo Leeds

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No - Massimo was having a melton Mowbray for his lunch

Oxwhite Oxwhite

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Personally not my cup of tea but we do need an experienced coach!

CTLUFC

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Not all experience is good experience. Mowbray managed a team of similar or greater talent to mid-table. I just don't think that's what we want.

virginiawhites

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Don't even joke about it speedo.

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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Mc hasn't decided who he wants yet as he is still in america

mr jenks

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Hope not Mowbray, let Redfearn caretake till we find a stronger option.

DicknotDom

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Not another name in the bag, it seems anyone driving by Leeds on the M62 is linked. I've started driving a different way home just in case I get put on the list. In the words of Paul heaton if u buy a 50p telescope u only see 50p stars. Come on mc put your money where ya mouth is.

Lufcbaz

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Apparently this isn't true

christox

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06 Sep 2014 23:17:41
Ronaldo Moran said he would be open to taking the reins at leeds, he knows how MC operates as he's managed for him before.

Martyn_g   Martyn_g
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All these different names it's hard to know who will get the job .
It may have been an idea to have appointed a new coach quicker so that the person would have time to work with the squad watch u21's game maybe a behind doors game!
I do wonder if Redders will get a couple more games before M C decides?

dogwise

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07 Sep 2014 16:38:38
that means he been sacked my him as well

onwardandupward

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You can not sack someone from a job there are not employed to do .
what my point was, Redders will play young players if they are good enough rather than the same old .
With the new signings and a couple of weeks working with the players who will know them better, and what would be a real boost would be a few points on the board .
I would like Redders to go back to youth as he does an excellent job .
Or if given the job, I would like to see a clause that if it goes pear he can go back to the youth .

dogwise

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Maran has never managed, or coached for Cellino

U7885

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U7885 I stand corrected I thought he had but you are right as I miss read the article, it actually states they know each other well and each knows how the other operates. My pool apologies I'll wear my glasses next time ;)

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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06 Sep 2014 10:45:07
I've heard people mention that we could be under a transfer embargo in Jan due to GFH's losses. Would explain the large amount of signings this window. I'm just the messenger.

SMitchell8

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Must have been reading N-now!

Andy MOT Andy MOT

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06 Sep 2014 13:29:36
It's been true for months.
However when MC buys ER from Jacob Adler by November this will change things.

pagliara

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It would be down to the way gfh were running the club, funny because I can't remember this bunch of Gumpy's having any grief when they brought the club of Bates .
The F l make cock-ups then the clubs, well mainly the fans end up paying .

dogwise

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06 Sep 2014 18:05:27
It would only be for january, we probably won't need anyone and we can still sell I believe. Once Cellino re-acquires ER the financial equation will change possibly impacting the embargo but have to say don't think so.

GeorgeIntegrityWhitebread GeorgeIntegrityWhitebread

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Dogwise was spot-on. There was a detailed article in YEP about it. Essentially, GFH is terrible and set us back at least 2 years.

virginiawhites

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We won't be the only Championship club in the firing line. But MC has been very clever - getting a big squad together in case we have an embargo, and spreading the purchases over different financial years. Another sign of a very astute businessman.

Slingsby White

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Buying ER means nothing as does the Ross money. These were for accounts 2013-14 and therefore those deals are after the deadline. What will help is if we are now financially stable but knowing how the FA hate us we will be punished so well done to MC for future proofing us past the January window

sloughwhites

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It's down to the Football league of whom former Leeds C E O Shaun Harvey is now the man in charge.
He has his fingers in the Leeds pie up to gfh, and has the neck to make comments on M C .
M C has been constantly referred to as a convicted fraudster by media before and after his purchase of Leeds, however other peoples dealings have only come to light SINCE,
His cut backs on staff and choice of players hence lowering wage bill, now begins to make even more sense as it looks likely a punishment may be given to an owner who was nothing to do with the club at the time of financial mismanagement .

dogwise

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Slingsby W.

That is a silly statement to make ( spreading costs ), ALL transfers are subject to payment of transfer fees over the contract period of the player. If 2 years then 2 payments etc.

WRover

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05 Sep 2014 17:15:35
To all the guys who hated the Hock read this!

My mate whos a first team player phoned me thursday night and after a little discussion divulged that (to his knowledge but could be more) 8 first team regular players begged MC to give Hock another month in charge. He said training was enjoyable and he brought a great togetherness in the camp that's been missing for a few seasons, he said his tactics were VERY good and if he was given time he personally thought the Hock would make it work.
(A few lads have been to see Hock since he was let go)

Very interesting.

Andy MOT   Andy MOT
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Yes Andy!

SpeedygRIP SpeedygRIP

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05 Sep 2014 18:02:45
A fitness coach with average knowledge about football. That's it. Tactically abysmal. Once we are in the premier league maybe bring him back for pre-season fitness purposes but no more. He is no more a coach or manager than any of our readers are astronauts.

GeorgeIntegrityWhitebread GeorgeIntegrityWhitebread

Ed01{Ed001's Note - there do seem to be a fair few space cadets, to be fair mate......}

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05 Sep 2014 18:36:14
I am guessing the first teamers were Hunt,Morison,Austin,Tonge,Murphy,Warnock, Pearce and White!
As for his tactics being very good it's a shame he didn't employ them during games.

1LU

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05 Sep 2014 18:50:34
Seemed a really nice genuine / down to earth bloke, but playing tonge murphy Austin ect along with formations and tactis that didn't oppose any threat. evidently it will get you the sack, billy sharps 'instinctive strikers' goal vs boro bailed him out abit I suppose! Good riddance hock

Liamalfie

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He was given time at forest green and look at his record there! Let's face it he was a nice guy but not a good manager.

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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Funnily enough I heard this too- leading MC to say how he liked hock and hoped he would come back one day. It's true he had poor preparation to preseason with all the comings and goings and the Ross fiasco however he was out of his depth in formation tactics and subs. I think MC should have brought a head head coach above the hock I mean £80k in football terms is nothing for a
'Nice guy'

Teeth

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That's why you need a manager rather than a coach

mr jenks

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Just like a previous poster who 'had a mate' who told him the squad were in revolt at the cluelessness of hocks strategy?!

Procedentes Una

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Prosedentes
This is genuine mate, just passing on what he told me.
I didn't want the Hock either but he seemed to hit a few heart strings in his short time as coach ;(

Andy MOT Andy MOT

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My first reply to this was blocked for some reason (might of been strong language). Andy let it go mate. if this is true no wonder we struggled as our players can not have a clue. FOUR YEARS HE WASD USELESS AT FOREST GREEN. tactics where poor, fact. everywhere he went he lost a lot of games. fact. at all of his clubs year in year out his form was religation material. no way our players could of back a guy who clearly has such a bad skills set of knowlegde. Anyone who can say anything professionally positive about a guy who took the man city of none league football to near relaitagtion four years running clearly has no clue. Andy no you love him mate but why bring this up just to annoy me ;)

Bermondsey White Bermondsey White

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And enough about him being nice. I'm nice my nan is lovely, my uncles dog is a delight should we all be running leeds? I refuse to believe any professional players can rate his tatics or knowlegde. if they do results would suggest they need to seek professional counciling

Bermondsey White Bermondsey White

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Hock may have made it work if he'd been given a bit longer, we'll never know. And the players (and the indiscipline of some) can share some of the blame, because without the sendings off = a couple of more wins, DH may still have been here. But the positives are that people seem to think he is a good fitness coach, and I've not seen a post anywhere about him not being a nice person - seems he's a genuinely good guy and I wish him well. I think some other team may well take a chance on him, and I hope they do!

SpeedygRIP SpeedygRIP

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He may be a good coach and trainer, but the main man he is not.

SG90

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To be honest anything is believable at Leeds!

and m

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B
You took your time lol

Only telling ya what I was told bud, like it or not that's how the players felt about your best mate ;)

Andy MOT Andy MOT

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The Hock was never mine or I think it's safe to say most peoples choice .
I have to stand by something I did say which is by the time the first game was played the squad looked fitter than before .
Think he did have an up-hill struggle players getting sent off -new players coming in and not -being fit or not being able to know how they will perform etc etc.
Whatever anybody thinks he was trying to push a train!

dogwise

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06 Sep 2014 12:55:30
The fact is he kept picking the wrong players simply to play it safe. Cook was overlooked big style and Mowatt. Benedicic was not given any time. How a man can pick Austin and Murphy every game is beyond me. He was supposed to showing us they way forward it was more like, back to the future. I supported him when he came but if he was still here at Christmas I think the players would have been losing faith as well.

BIGE

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No way is that how they players felt, they may be being polite. it is not often players come out and say, yeah the bloke was a mug. listen to what he said in interviews, look at how his leeds team played, look at his forest green results. he was clueless and anyone with half a footballing brain would see that including our players and MC. MC hired him to fire him, quick cheap and puts the focus on hock and not MC, MC is a brilliant and very clever man. The hock is a puds

Bermondsey White Bermondsey White

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Hock was a really nice guy and good fitness plus cameraderee guy(spelt wrong)
But he was the wrong guy at the wrong time.
We need a b-----d in charge.
MOT

pagliara

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I can tell you one that didn't approve andy,,, a certain mr McCormack last seasons top scorer who saw through him from day one.

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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In the end I believe as BIGE has said, the hock played what he though was a safe option.
Young Cook of which I have not seen a massive amount of, looks class beyond his years.
Maybe had he have taken a gamble, the fans might have backed him a bit longer!

dogwise

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06 Sep 2014 17:11:20
He's gone , forget him and move on

christox

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We will never know if hock would of made it work, but why think he would when he never made it work at non leauge forest green. as they say crazy is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. hock failed failed and failed again, to expect him to do anything other than fail at a harder league with a smaller team (in comparision forest green where man city with loadsof money) it plain crazy. ross saw he was a joke and got out and rightly so, samy byrman was not happy either. players have visted him if true (which I doubt) it must be like when you see an old uncle who is has gone bit senial, you don't want to go but you do the right thing

Bermondsey White Bermondsey White

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Yea you got a point there Dogwise

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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Also I know a lot of lads gutted the hock has gone. and they all support millwall. gutted we are no longer certain to go down, gutted we are no longer a laughing stock and gutted he will no longer hear the hocks great interviews. that says it all. hock 0 bermonsdey white 1 (unlike the hock to lose)

Bermondsey White Bermondsey White

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We know at least 1 (Warnock) of the 11 was in favor of Hockaday as the coach. Likable or not, the tactics were not conducive to winning. I wish him well though. He seemed like an honest guy.

virginiawhites

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Martyn
Is that the same top scorer who tried to run away in jan before the Hock was brought in!!

Andy MOT Andy MOT

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Yea ok I'll hold my hands up after reading what McCormack has said about his transfer and how MC forced him out but I also read Viviani wasn't impressed with him or his tactics or his team, any way he's gone now but what baffles me is you say you didn't like him but your very defensive if anyone puts him down.

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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I've NEVER been defensive of the Hock, I always said I didn't want him but WHOEVER gets the job deserve a chance to prove themselves.
Would you like to start a new job and on the first day people start shouting your s***e sack him?

Andy MOT Andy MOT

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Sorry andy just wrong, not anyone who gets a job deserves a chance. his record was poor, his tactics were poor, his interviews where poor. people need to earn respect not just be given it. if a person did as bad as hock they would not work again let alone be given a promotion at a bigger company. and I would happy take hocks wages and postiions as leeds head coach tomorrow. with the job comes pressure and the fans who pay my wages deserve to have their feelings from the off. I would either prove them wrong or be sacked. hock was sacked end of really. he proves all those calling for him to be sacked staight away correct. Hock made me right by being very poor at everything he did before and during his time at leeds. now when I say hock is a joke people can agree or be wrong

Bermondsey White Bermondsey White

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Here here, couldn't of put it better myself B

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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What his interviews were poor "I talk pizza " in reference to the Italian lads .
Your not kidding!

dogwise

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Difference is andy I wouldn't take a job that I knew I wasn't qualified for, I drive Arctics for a living so I wouldn't try convince people I was a racing driver because that would be stupid so he and MC are to blame, he shouldn't of took the job and MC shouldn't of offered him it.

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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Agreed marytn I have said the same. I am and actor and script writer years ago I was in blood brothers in the west end. I was offered the chance to audition for the tour that is coming up soon. I said no becuase I knew I was not upto it anymore and knew if I did I would be judged and people paying there money to see me would say he is not very good

Bermondsey White Bermondsey White

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Utter garbage from more than a few.
If you were offered a job you thought you could do, you'd say yes.
Hock was offered a job he thought he could do. He said yes.
Good luck to the fella, I say. He gave his big chance a shot and it didn't work out. You can't blame him for giving it a go.
Not one of you would have said no in the same circumstances.

CityWhite

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Martyn
So if someone said il give ya x-amount to to drive for Ferarri you would say NO?

(Pull the other one mate)

Anyways I ONLY posted what a first team player tole me believe it or not, I think deep down you do believe it but hate the Hock that much you don't want it to be true!

Andy MOT Andy MOT

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What some of you seem to be forgetting, when you criticise his team choices, is that the majority of players we have signed are not regulars in a team. They are reserve players getting used to a demanding league. So yeah, playing Austin and/or Murphy is a safe option if they are fitter, and putting the work in on the training ground whilst the other players get up to scratch.

It was always going to be a slow burner this season, whoever was in charge, and as much as I think it was right to move on from Hock, I'm not convinced he was given time to show what he or the players could do.

15 new signings is a lot to bring into an established group and expect instant results from. They need to bond, and they need to get used to the club, the league, the fans, their team mates. Patience is key this season, it has to be because it si unlikely that we're going to turn up on Saturday and suddenly be promotion material - and if we do, then Redders is a genius!

There's definitely talent in the club now, and it needs nurturing and that takes time. Most likely we would've seen improvements over the coming weeks if Hock had stayed, but he hasn't, so we'll never know.

xryzflec

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Again it was hard for him but. four years forest green in that time he was garbage. please see the link I put to people slating him in the stands at forest green after four years. if it was a normal coach I would say he didn't get enough time but for what he said and what he did before he got four games more than he deserved. and city white when I was 22 I played mickey in blood brothers in the west end. this year I was offered the tour I said no, I knew I was no longer good enough so said no. hock must of known what I knew unless he is sillier than me which is possible. he must think, I stunk at forest green this is going to be harder? I fail to see how he missed what me and many others knew. if he respected himself and the club he would of said no. I respect myself and the people paying to see the new blood brothers tour so I said no. seven years ago yes but now that job and all the money that goes with it is too big for me

Bermondsey White Bermondsey White

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B
How do you know if your good enough unless you try it?
I was in maintenance for 8yrs and was head hunted to service aircaraft, I s**t myself when I was approached and been doing it ever since.

Gordon Brown took a job he couldn't do,
David Moyes said yes to Manchester United but he was NOT good enough! Pillipa Scholari said yes to Chelski but he was NOT good enough!
Look at Andres Villas Boas (whatever his name is) how many top jobs has he had and DONE nothing. I could go on and on and on but will leave it at that.

HE WAS NOT good enough but ya can't blame the Hock for taking the job and he DEFO didn't do it for the money.

Your ONLY as good as your last job ;)

Andy MOT Andy MOT

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Andy I don't hate hock I just strongly disagreed with the decision to appoint him and no I wouldn't sign for Ferrari if offered (maybe scania if they had a team " joke by the way" my point from the beginning was its all time wasted when everyone knew what the end outcome was going to be so why not get a quality man in and utilise the time we have now wasted trying a non league manager. By the way you seem very defensive of him again and when when you said believe it or not in your post well I choose NOT.

Martyn_g Martyn_g

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Martyn
I agree the Hock was a waste of time but ONLY MC knows why he set him on.

If Ferari asked you WOULD sign as would anyone.

YOU SAY YOU don't believe my post!
Then don't read them and don't comment SIMPLES mate.

Andy MOT Andy MOT

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Andy I know you must love hock, maybe you are the hock as your comments suggest nothing but pure bromance. you are talking utter garbage and here is why.

how do you know if your good enough unless you try? he did try at forest green. he had lots more money had the biggest budget and transfer kitty and was none league. he failed and was there four years. so he had done this job albeit a far easier version of and he sucked so hard the fans at forest green booed hissed theatented and hated him.

also your other examples. gordon brown was left with the job due to retierment so was more interim like redders at the moment. he couldn't do job but different situation.

david moyes did well and achived at a smaller club in same league with smaller budget (so nothing like hock) fair play to DM, scholiari had won almost everything, it didn't work out at chelsea but he had every reason to think it would (again different to hock I would of given him more time had he won a couple of world cups) AVB again won treble or quadruple (and you say nothing) and had a great win rate (again unlike Hock).

if you could go on and on why did you use such bad examples? find me another guy as bad as hock then find him taking a great job (they must be proven to fail at a man city like team in poor league with years to get it right. any examples of course not jokes like hock come but once a lifetime)

not for money he was unemployed bum 90k is lot of money compared to dole plus decent payoff for short time being crap.

your only as good as your last job. forest green. now leeds nuff said me thinks?

any more posts andy. you say you don't like but seem to keep fighting the corner when no one agrees with anything you say about him and starting to look silly. please read over your posts. love your posts you normally speak sense and I love your optomism would love a beer with you, but mate you got beer goggles on when it comes to hock

Bermondsey White Bermondsey White

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B
You talk with fork tongue mate you said the Hock should have said NO to the job in an ealier post, why didn't Gordon Brown say NO as he wasnt up to the job!
Your twisting the Scholari story I said he went to Chelski and did nothing!
If David Moyes was that good it took the Evertonians about 2hrs to get over him leaving, ask them what they think NOW!
Man utd players found him out in 3 weeks, wouldn't play for him and he was ousted!
AVB I said how many TOP jobs TOP being the operative word buddy. What did he win at Spurs after spending over £100 million? your at it again twisting my post mate, JUST ANSWER what I write without TWISTING! We won't mention his time at Chelski as I didnt. Youd make a great politician.

NO ONE agrees with the post! UTTER BULL S**T 63 agrees and 80 dissagree mate look the stats they don't lie and I don't lie.
A first team player told me and you don't like it.

Andy MOT Andy MOT

Ed01{Ed001's Note - to be fair, AVB never spent most of the money, similar to Hockaday, he was given players and told to make the best of it. In a number of cases, such as Lamela, they were players he asked not to be brought in. His time with Spurs was doomed to fail the moment Baldini decided to be an arse.}

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True ED
Someone else leevy or whoever should be held blame for the Spurs debacle but AVB is not a GOOD coach, he might be one day but not yet IMO.

Anyway just to clarify B I NEVER wanted the Hock, if it sounds like i'm sticking up for him then it wasnt intended that way. I just made a post as I was told by a first team player.
This is my last comment on a guy that has gone let's move onwards/upwards with our new coach whoever it may be!

Hock as never been as popular lol

Andy MOT Andy MOT

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Fork tounge, you say you don't like hock yet stick up for him and kiss his bum at any opportunity.

i am not saying any of the people were good enough for the job, just saying all had claim to think they might be hock had no such claim. when others failed it could of been percieved as a shock when hock failed all apart from the really dumb saw it coming. I am no genius yet I knew the day he signed he was rubbish how because of what he did before. if we sign rick waller as a forward I know he won't score.

people agreeing are not saying they like the hock no one other than you like the hock and even you at times say you didn't think he was good enough. they are saying they beleieve players have looked him up since.

No one liked the hock he was never going to be good enough and wasnt and if he stayed four years we will not know but can guess it would be same as forest green or worse. he has rightly gone everyone is happy and over it apart from you. you seem to like hock and dislike smith. are you a wednesday fan or know nothing about football? and fork tounge you have said he wasnt up to job so why the sudden turn around. I think the guy who said you had a job of of I heart hock shirts for sale might be right :P

Bermondsey White Bermondsey White

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Well said B am glad it wasn't just me that saw how he jumped down anyone's throat if they dared to say bad about the hock.

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05 Sep 2014 13:45:57
Kalvin Phillips training with first team.Adryan is Batty and Alan Smith reincarnated.

Dr.T

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Adryan is playing Monday u21's, awaiting inter clearage on del fab and mont .
If anyone can get along a report would be excellent .

dogwise

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Dr.T

Is that Adryan is batty? Or Adrian is as good as David Batty and one or other of the Smiths combined? Alan I hope if that's the case

SpeedygRIP SpeedygRIP

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