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16 Jun 2019 17:03:38
Reflecting on last season, what does everyone think, would it have made a difference from xmas onwards, if we had of set up more defensively, especially away from home against the top half teams. MB's policy of win every game is great when the team has the fresh legs. Would we have picked up more points if we had shut up shop a few few times or were we trying to retrieve games after going behind.

16 Jun 2019 11:53:41
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Great Teams Part 4 Joga Bonito: The 1970 Brazil World Cup Team

15 Jun 2019 18:57:58
If we need the funds for incomings, Forshaw to Fulham for a decent profit on the £4.5m we paid for him would suit me just fine . Don't rate him in either of the two midfield slots where KP is far superior at 4 and MK much better at 8 . We could cover his absence with a loanee and / or Shackleton and other under 23's . If we could get £6 or £7m off Fulham and their parachute payments it's a no brainer for me and should mean we keep our prized assets, with Saiz and some of the other fringe players also adding to the transfer pot .

15 Jun 2019 21:49:45
A loanee like Baker 😜.

16 Jun 2019 08:29:06
Can’t see us getting 6 or 7 million for Forshaw! Be lucky to get our money back! Don’t think we have seen the best of him but not a favourite of mine!

16 Jun 2019 10:37:01
Think we have seen the best of him unfortunately!

16 Jun 2019 10:49:36
Have to agree, he isn't the player for us. I would be happy if we got our money back for him, as long as Radz reinvests it in the squad.

16 Jun 2019 12:16:36
Forshaw is technically one of the best players in the squad but unfortunately he appears to be made of glass and is neither a defensive midfielder or has to ability to score. Ideally he should be used in a 3 man midfield and he does keep the ball moving forward.

15 Jun 2019 17:18:20
Liam McCarron - One For The Future?

15 Jun 2019 18:01:27
Maybe, but let's have one or two for the now.

15 Jun 2019 23:51:35
yeah i agree feath,

i love worward planning and think our investment in youth is/ will pay off but my family all die young i need something before i pop my cloggs.

16 Jun 2019 13:51:17
Enjoy the journey, enjoy the great football we play, enjoy the young players coming through, enjoy the eccentricity that is Bielsa!

If we get promotion to the premiership, you’ll all be worrying about relegation or whether mid table is good enough or how many city will beat us by! Relax and take a drag from the pipe of hope and live the day!

16 Jun 2019 16:01:37
I prefer Axe’s hot tub to the pipe, Spanish! 😳😂.

15 Jun 2019 14:14:00
Nice to see Gibson not letting it drop, with the Wendies, Villa and especially Rams, Re: ffp rules being broken. You can see the head lines if it had been Leeds!

15 Jun 2019 14:29:06
Hung drawn and quartered springs to mind.

15 Jun 2019 15:35:54
met steve and think he is a top fella, i believe he is convinced they broke the rules and looks like he is not letting it drop

apprently there is a loop hole around leasing the ground which is not ethical but a loop hole (of course if us we would of been slaughtered)

shame as rads qualifies for the loop hole but said he has no interest in doing it as immoral. some might like this stance but i see it as a lack of funds or ambition. no point having morals when everyone else is breakig the rules.

15 Jun 2019 17:43:06
Berm, The difference, in the rules, Leeds only need to bend them to get hammered. Look at the all fuss over "Spygate" when no rule was broken. We would be out of the football league for doing what other clubs get away with.

15 Jun 2019 18:52:18
true i forgot that for one second

i do apologise as my over sight has got the club fined 200k and docked 9 points.

16 Jun 2019 00:57:19
I thought radz had the stadium and not Leeds?! So we cannot do it.

16 Jun 2019 08:14:22
He could if he wanted to Louis. Sell it to the club for X and resell it back later for X along them lines anyway mate. Where's there's a will there's a way.

15 Jun 2019 11:59:36
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Nordi Mukiele

14 Jun 2019 22:14:13
Funny how we have to go to Merseyside via Scotland to get Kent to come to Yorkshire. Only in football but it sounds like cricket. Do I sound like Oneleeds?

15 Jun 2019 06:26:49
Very good Georgie!

15 Jun 2019 09:44:14
George, imagine if the Brazilian, Everton, was signed by Liverpool! The Merseyside derby with the commentator saying Everton for Liverpool. Or maybe signed by Everton!

15 Jun 2019 14:58:41
Thanks Spanish and good one DSW. Another intriguing prospect of a Kent acquisition but more importantly a Jack Clarke retention is then each wing will combine to make Superman's alter ego!

15 Jun 2019 15:11:31
Excellent George, or on first name terms, Jack Clancys CIA analyst!

15 Jun 2019 15:29:57
Or Tom Clancy even 😂.

15 Jun 2019 15:59:41
DSW Very good.

16 Jun 2019 09:40:07
George there will only ever be one oneleeds!

14 Jun 2019 17:41:17
On the two topics below, you can only judge Rads ability to invest in quality players by what he has spent to date or failed to spend, like in January. The other point on Saiz, I believe the big problem he had was frustration, I think he tried too hard, he became a marked man, with all opposition teams trying to stop him playing. He should have been rested, then played out on the left wing and not given the ball as much . At one stage every attacking move we made was to pass the ball to Saiz. The opposition had two players on him all the time . Both he and us got found out. It would be great to have him back firing on all cylinders, on his day best player in the league. There may also have been an element of homesickness, which got worse when things were not going right.

14 Jun 2019 18:00:29
I agree to a degree, but when you are that kind of player, you should expect to get kicked, his problem was the way he took it. To create space for others, I’d have taken a lump hammer to the shins. Ok, maybe not, but you get chopped in football, but you do what you can do, for the team.

14 Jun 2019 18:05:24
Leeds1970 - agreed Saiz got targeted but that was because of the threat he posed. His was the flair that hasn’t yet been replaced. The killer final pass. Note how Klich goals dried up after he left and it also affected Pablo in my view, who serves us better on the wing because of his ability to cross the ball. Who truly knows why Saiz went but he should have been protected on the pitch whilst he was here. If Vinny Jones had been playing behind him some of those who constantly elbowed him in the ribs or tapped his ankles would have thought twice. We need that kind of presence again to protect our flair players.

14 Jun 2019 20:42:58
To a part, I agree. It would be useful to have some "presence" on the pitch but I would never want that instead of talent. I love Vinny, brilliant leader, but averagely talented. If only he had been Desailly.

14 Jun 2019 21:48:10
sorry axe but i got to disagree

vinne was great in this league the year we come up, a leader, showed grit, bossed games and often showed a touch of class, some of his goals in 89-90 were as good as any you would see

swap vinne for any of our midfielders this year and for me we would of gone up

we had no grit, no ability to boss the game, no one to grab ga, me by scruff of the neck when our perfect football didn't come off and we were a soft soft touch against poor team who took points from us they never should of took and cost us promotion

every team needs grit and a backbone we have no one other than pontus and last year we are soft as a 80 year olds lady melons.

14 Jun 2019 21:24:41
I agree, Saiz was man marked and rightly so. I'd have done that if I was an opposition coach.
As a player you keep trying as if you are good enough you can still make things happen.
You also have to pull defenders away by drifting out of the zone a little. If they don't follow you then you have your space if they do someone else has the space.
To me Saiz didn't do this enough and as a result became frustrated as he wasn't as involved as he'd like.
Do what's best for the team and we all win.

14 Jun 2019 22:01:28
Berm I've had quite enough of you now! Will the real Bermondsey please stand up? You've been talking sense for over 3 months now.

14 Jun 2019 22:02:36
Good post MP.

14 Jun 2019 22:06:00
I agree Bermo. But the kind of “grit” you’re talking about, the grit that I love, and taught as a coach, is not allowed anymore. And it’s sad. Football of old is gone. 😢.

14 Jun 2019 23:02:11
Not sure I’d go that far Georgie! But actually do agree about Vinnie, bought in specifically for a purpose and did his job. He moved on when he saw what was coming in the shape I’d one of our best midfield combinations ever and he is very honest about it. Incredible bloke! Just not sure Bielsa sees the need for that role, KP might be as far as he would go in that regard.

Saiz, great player but came at a cost that the bielsa regime just isn’t going to put up with. Went back to Spain for family reasons and I’m sure will be happy to stay there. He went back in December when.
things looked great for gods sake and he couldn’t cement a place in the Getafe 11, that says it all. I’m surprised if you come back from all that with Bielsa. He’s gone!

14 Jun 2019 23:34:25
Fair enough Bermo. Love it when you write positive stuff cos you expand on it well and its interesting stuff.

I agree with you, in the Championship Vinny would have been at the right level. Also agree he gave backbone to that Division 2 winning side

My only issue is the modern game would have passed him by, and refs would have got writer's cramp from his robust approach.

15 Jun 2019 12:56:06
i make axe and bright correct sadly the players that i love and think leeds need probably don't exsist and wouldn't fit todays game or last 20 minutes on the pitch

think the closest i seen this year was the sheff utd midfield and would give anything for either one of the them in particular mcginn who impressed me all seasons

the loss to them was a good example, we had all the game but they defended doggily then they had a couple of attacks and our weak spine couldn't handle it.

it is great to do a wolves but that costs money promotion on the cheap (which leeds look like we might have to do) can be done but by the likes of Cardiff and sheff utd which is less about nice football and more a dogged stability.

15 Jun 2019 13:23:55
Mcginn plays for Villa, Berm, but agree with sentiment!

15 Jun 2019 18:53:28
sorry yeah

i meant mcginn of villa or the two fellas for sheff utd, i'm getting old and even more stupid than i was in my young age.

14 Jun 2019 16:16:43
some players were after all ready gone to the wall . going like last year.

14 Jun 2019 18:26:42
You mean the players the newspapers tell us we are after.

14 Jun 2019 15:57:58
Maybe they have said to Corberan, look when 20/ 21 comes around we will not try too hard to keep Bielsa and if he goes, the job is yours.