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20 Oct 2021 13:48:38
Here is my radical line up for Saturday
Meslier/ / Drameh-Struik=Llorente-Dallas? / / KP/ / Raph-Harrison-Bate-James/ / Gelhart
1=not sure about DAllas given his troubles, loss of form so maybe McCarron (can Coops/ Cresswell play LB? )
2=Not that radical as the names missing are not really on form at the minute.
I know, with MBs favourites, it's not got a cat in hells chance of being remotely right. Back to Dallas/ KLich/ Roberts to save the day but I for one would take the gamble.

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05 Sep 2021 12:49:32
Ok so let's summarise Ortas incomings:

Madger Gomes: awful. Has never made Championship standard and currently in L1

Pontus Jansson: great player, finally and deservedly made it to the prem where he is holding his own. This can't really go down as an Orta signing though as it was Monk who found him

Mateusz Klich: initially a complete failure but showed determination and came good working with Bielsa. If not for Bielsa I don't think he would have worked out but glad he did

Hadi Sacko - terrible. Zero end product and failed to work out. Now playing for some no hoper Turkish side

Felix Wiedwald - wretched, even more so since he was supposed to be a replacement for the excellent Rob Green. Totally error prone and complete liability.

Vurnon Anita - terrible. Shadow of the player he was at Newcastle so clearly past his best.

Caleb Ekuban - poor. Never got going or looked like a prolific goalscorer. Best forgotten

Samuel Saiz: great on his day and a match winner. However, very dodgy attitude and landed himself the trouble almost as often as he did well. Ultimately left us in the lurch of overall has to go down as a miss. His creativity has never been replaced. Maybe with Raph if he has a good second season.

Ezgjan Alioski: did brilliantly and even made the step up to Prem league. The biggest failure Orta has made was to let him leave

Ouasim Bouy - absolutely pathetic signing. Just a complete leaxh who was incredibly given a 4 year contract and didn't play a single game for us or even train with the team. Blunder of Seth Johnson proportions but thank god he was only on a youth contract and therefore relatively small wages.

Jay-Roy Grot: nowhere near good enough and never made an impression

Andy Lonergan : unsuccessful second stay at the club. Failed to make an impression on everything apart from the wage bill.

Adrian Balboa: Rocky's missus would have actually been a better signing as Adrian never showed any promise or talent. Another howler.

Paweł Cibicki: 1.5 million wasted on a player 2ho only appeared 10 times. Sold for about 300k and another big loss.

Hugo Diaz: showed early promise but now faded to obscurity. Doubtful to even reach Championship standard

Bryce Hosannah: struggled to even get game time in L2 so never anywhere near our team in any division.

Alejandro Machuca: totally pointless midfield signing who again never came anywhere near doing anything.

Oriol Rey: can't even remember this guy but a clear lack of any impression and a complete failure.

Ousama Siddiki: who? Exactly.

Kun Temenuzhkov: got us all excited initially but another false dawn. Disappointing but what can we expect from a dof who wouldn't know talent if it slapped him in the face?

Ryan Edmondson: struggling for Aberdeen. Nuff' said.

Aapo Halme: looked decent but failed to make the grade. Might one day make it to Championship level.

Yosuke Ideguchi: very odd and ultimately doomed transfer as we never got to see him do anything- even fot the u23s. Maybe an attempt at getting some foreign interest or something. Anyway, terrible.

Laurens De Bock: complete disappointment probing just because you were alright in Belgium doesn't mean you are even good enough for the Champ. Take note Lang fans.

Oliver Sarkic: now at Burton Albion. Says it all.

Adam Forshaw: injury prone and will maybe never be fit enough or good enough to make the Prem. We shall see but at the moment 4 years of wasted wages.

Sam Dalby: another oftf that was touted as the next big thing only to fade to complete obscurity.

Pascal Struijk: fabtastic player. Probably the only real success from our youth ranks that Orta brought in. Payed a fair bit for him though so not exactly an unknown.

Tyler Roberts: Bielsa evidently sees talent but yet to make the grade for me. Injury hit career so maybe still time. Big season for him.

Jordan Stevens: looked like he was getting close only to fade and now in L1. Not good enough.

Joshveer Shergill: playing non league now.

Leif Davis: 'very good. Could still make it so jury's out

Barry Douglas: never really played well and then let go. Wolves cast off that never made it. Has to go down as a miss.

Patrick Bamford: England's no.9 has to go down as a success buy took a heck of a lot of work from Bielsa. Think this is more of a success for the coach than the dof.

Kiko Casilla: error prone and very expensive in wages. Cost us promotion. Think Orta saw the words Real Madrid and never questioned why he had never been first choice in his career. Now we know.

Mateusz Bogusz: too early to say but finally seems to be coming good on his latest loan. Will he ever get to the Prem though? Hope so.

Morten Spencer - too young to tell. Tbc

Stuart McKinstry - tbc

Liam McCarron - tbc

JKA: Continuing us a fortune in wages and transfer fee and may yet cost us another £18m. Enough to buy Raph and have change left over. Already Ortas biggest blunder.

Rafa Mujica: yet another disappointment who never managed to make it

Guillermo Amor: never made an impression

Alfie Hughes: tbc

Josh Galloway: tbc

Elia Caprile: could still do something

Ian Poveda: looked alright for a few games but another Sako with zero end product and now a bad attitude has seen him leave. Failure.

Hedler Costa: total disappointment and utter failure. Waste of money that we didn't have and if we hadn't got promotion when we did would have seen the club go into severe financial difficulties as we couldn't afford £15m in the Champ. Orta almost caused a Ridsdake scale meltdown here. Thank goodness he has been moved on as waste of time and money.

Illan Meslier: not cheap at 5m but has definitely proven his worth. Could be Orta's best gamble yet.

Rodrigo: record signing and so far a big disappointment. We would have been better spending £27m on an actual no.10. Already looking like another expensive flop.

Robin Koch: jury's out really. definitely not a DM which is one reason why we signed him and another injury prone. Time will tell.

Diego Llorente: brilliant in his day but very injury prone. Time will tell buy maybe the poor injury record was why we got him cheap and perhaps the reason he keeps breaking under Bielsas tough training regime meaning not a great fit for Leeds

Raph: brilliant. Another gamble that paid off or has looked like that so far. Still don't know why Rennes let him go although Can be inconsistent so maybe his coach couldn't get the best out of him.

Joe Gelhardt, Charlie Allen, Dani van den Heuvel, Cody Drameh, Sam Greenwood, Crysencio Summerville: too early to say. Could end up falling short or being the next Pascal. Need to be making an impression on the firsts this year or probably more flops.

Firpo: tbc

James: tbc

Youth players and new keeper from this year: tbc

So around 4 successes so far from around 40 players. Not a great return imo.

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04 Sep 2021 09:38:41
The debate below has reminded me just how many flops Victor Orta has signed :

JKA, Lauren de Bock, Kiko Casilla, Ian Poveda, Helder Costa, Tyler Roberts etc

The jury is still out on Rodrigo, Firpo, even Robin Koch and because of his injuries Forshaw

The undoubted successes have been Bamford, Meslier, Raphinia and if he can stay injury free from now on Llorente because he is quality

But overall Orta has been very disappointing in the amount of money he has wasted.

The Leeds recruitment process needs to be Bielsa selecting a list of players he wants that fit not Orta doing it.

Also think for Leeds to progress further Leeds need a more successful Director of Football to replace Orta.

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31 Aug 2021 12:35:19
It would be a pretty frightening quick attack.
Just not sure about one spot. Prob more suitable to Forshaw or klich than Rodrigo.
Ayling liorente. Koch. Firpo.
Philillps. ?
James raph Harrison

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08 Mar 2021 22:46:34
Moving forward for the rest if this season I hope Bielsa plays this team until Koch is available

Meslier GK
Ayling ( or Drameh ) RB
Struick CD
Cooper CD
Alioski LB
Dallas CM
Rodrigo. AM
Raphinha RW
Harrison LW
Bamford CF

Subs from

Drameh ( or Ayling)
Shackleton ( when fit )

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16 Jan 2021 14:08:11
Meslier out Castilla in, not good news.

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20 Oct 2020 13:35:26
How about, next game (or next but one) line up of
dallas, Llorente, Koch, Ayling
Raphina, Pablo, Klich, Poveda

With Pablo being nursed thro a season.

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11 Oct 2020 16:59:02
Born in 56 my choices are mainly from Revie era for obvious reasons

Bremner capt.
E. Gray


So many you could add to that, McAllister, Giles, Hasselbaink, the list goes on. So many great players have donned the white shirt and done us proud.

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11 Oct 2020 01:12:03
Think this feature also shows our ages my all time Leeds 11 would be;

Sniffer who made me play football and gave me dreams to aspire to, never fulfilled but that’s ok.

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10 Oct 2020 17:32:16
My team


Mel sterland.

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