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28 Aug 2014 19:23:36
Being reprted on news now that Hockaday and Lewis have been sacked
05 Jun 2014 19:00:08
Well, if all the reports on NN are to be believed its a 3 horse race on saturday, an I don't mean the Derby. Personally I think Gary Mac would make a great coach, managing was too great a task for him I think, but that's just me ;)
1.) 05 Jun 2014 19:45:09
I think out the 3 rumoured names (Hughton, Hockaday and McAllister) I would go with McAllister although I also think Paul Hart would be a good shout.
2.) Do people really rate gary mac? do I miss something? brought some great players to the club as scout but tactics were off, results were poor and motivation was none exsistant. what am I missing? all I remember is poor league results and our darkest moment with the club losing in first round of fa cup to non league opposition. scout yes anything else no thanks 100's of better coaches out there
3.) Wouldn't want any of the 4 mentioned above. My choice would be a proven young manager ready to step up to a bigger club. Step forward Eddie Howe.
4.) Agree totally
{Ed003's Note - this was in reply to Bermondsey btw.}
5.) We played sexy football under him according to many FL pundits. i'd love to have him back. We were without Beckford that dark dark day remember. He'd scored about 5 that day
6.) All the names mentioned don't seem good enough to me. Gary Mac no, hockaday definitely not, the Eddie Howe shout would be good though. But prob not going to be one of the 3 being seen. If I had to choose of the 3 though it would be Chris houghton! Roll on sat!
7.) 05 Jun 2014 21:00:40
Howe is a manager not a coach and the only place he is proven is at Bournemouth. He didn't set the world light at Burnley.
{Ed003's Note - He was shocking there but to be fair that team that went up was mainly his signings.}
8.) Eddie Howe or Chris Hughton
9.) 05 Jun 2014 21:19:47
So the fact that virtually same squad that Howe had got promoted should tell you everything you need to know about Howes coaching ability!
10.) Didnt realise Macca was a scout for Leeds? Just thought he was a good coach who needed a top defensive coach alonside him to get us up. And how can people say he can't motivate players is beyond me. what are they in the dressing room as well! MOT.
11.) Corkwhite, I was not in the dressing room but I did see what happened on the pitch which was in my opinion, lack of passion lack of disire, lack of skill and lack of basic ideas (how many times did we conceed the same goal under Gary Mac? every time ball was in the air in our box we conceded which would suggest bad coach as well?) loved him as a player and seems a nice bloke but coach? manager? not for me think I could name 100 people I would rather get the job
12.) OK Bermondsey I hear what you saying. Bad goals conceded from coners etc were very poor under Macca for a time but I also remember under Wilko a similar situation when the opposition got a corner a goal was on its way in one particular season. Also think about it. under Bates he literally had no cash to spend. Think Huntingdon as number 1 CB! . It just amazes me some folk seem convinced others are well suited for the job with little or no reason! Howe. done very liitle. Clarke. even less. Hughton or Mackay I could take. But give me an ex Leeds player who knows his stuff. and I believe Macca does. I will take him all day him long. Gary Mc is in the running I believe and is probably the best man for the job as the BOSS wants a British coach and he is, I believe, a good coach. MOT.
13.) To be fair, with Cellino in charge, all 3 will be coach at some point in the season
14.) You make a good point about wilko Corky. I rated wilko as one of the best in the world at that time but I do remember that season (Sadly). I also agree some are bounding about managers with little to back it up. If I was MC (id be very happy) but I would go for Kenny Jacket or Malky Macky. Both know the league both good with money and good coaches and get the best out of the squad. But then I am not a bonkers Itailan who wants to be in charge of signings, which raises the point if his signings do badly will he sack himself as I am sure he didn't sack many managers in Italy so it is not like he passes the blame is it?
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23 Jan 2025 18:24:34
We are Leeds. We fear no one. They fear us. UTWDTP and MOT ???.
1.) 23 Jan 2025 20:26:15
YES Vid!
2.) 23 Jan 2025 23:05:58
Err last season Saints definitely didn't fear us
Russell Martin had Farkey and Leeds in his pocket.
As does John Eustace
That said Leeds to do Millwall in Cup.
17 Jan 2025 22:23:40
Hmmmmm well, procrastination is the thief of time and time is all we have. So live in the present and rejoice, dream of the future and accept it may not be as you wish. Hope is the beacon we are drawn to and belief the road. UtWDTP and MOT whatever ???.
1.) 18 Jan 2025 01:46:09
Yep Davey we be all around the campfires singing songs of LUFC solidarity!
And also please don't
forget ladz to light them 'Candles
of Hope' on Sunday morning
UTWATP Up the Whites Accumulate the points.
13 Jan 2025 19:51:12
So peeps, we have passed half way in front, excellent, objective number one achieved. But now according to some that team is not good enough to finish the job? Strength grows from strength, negativity begets negativity. Why oh why do we seek the reasons Not to succeed? Honestly. There is every reason to believe siblings and I for one do. One Leeds, One Love ?.
1.) 13 Jan 2025 20:39:44
Luke Davey Vid ; may the force be with you
I do lurve and smile at yer kumbayar positivity / optimism posts
but these were pretty much the same predictions you had last season too . and hmmm.
2.) 13 Jan 2025 20:45:13
Alright Bob Marley??.
I completely agree Vid, no matter we are top, some on here are never happy. Enjoy the ride, as I have said before a level roller coaster would be boring.
3.) 13 Jan 2025 20:47:50
9 for me
May not be as Champions, but autos will do.
It might be inspite of Meslier rather than because of him.
"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender,
4.) 13 Jan 2025 20:49:42
Difficult to comprehend Vid, some of the posters on here! The manager is rubbish, oh wait, just won manager of the month! The team desperately need additions in January because, oh wait, we are top of the table! I see BS Baz is adding predictions of 3rd and 4th position finishes in case his original 1st place doesn’t happen ? cover all the options!
5.) 13 Jan 2025 21:23:30
Well Baz, that is because I will never stop believing. What is the point otherwise?
6.) 13 Jan 2025 22:17:45
DDSW
situations/ fortunes can change at LUFC as you know full well!
Soooo due to the ongoing Meslier meltdown gk issue . regrettably I think we will now finish 3rd not 1st
Hope Mes proves me wrong and becomes more like Mike Maignan this 2nd half of season!
and
fair dos Davey Vid . hope you are right!
7.) 14 Jan 2025 01:05:21
Everybody is allowed to change their minds on original prediction. I thought we would romp this league with the quality of our squad. But things change. We haven’t got rid of last season habit of dropping unnecessary points or as some call it ( a bad day at the office ? ) . We have a fair few of them. We have in my opinion a couple of other respond to be cautious too. We are too I get it. Just not as confident as I was when the fantastic summer additions were made. Not sure how long Piroe out for but to just have Matt’s up front for a month is iffy.
8.) 14 Jan 2025 01:41:02
Reasons not respond and top not too.
9.) 14 Jan 2025 02:44:22
Exactly Aus.
10.) 14 Jan 2025 06:15:57
I'm sure we will finish top unless something terribly unfortunate or, 'Leedsy' happens.
With crew and joffy going on loan, Bamford and Piroe out, I would be shocked if we didn't sign a 9 and 10. If Gnonto was on form I wouldn't worry too much but it seems mad not to be protected up front when we have wingers, defenders and midfielders coming out the ying Yang.
11.) 14 Jan 2025 07:25:08
But news now reporting Farke happy with his two strikers mot. And is happy for them to see out the season.
12.) 14 Jan 2025 08:02:39
At the end of the day, the man who is paid to do this job and sits in the hot seat is not us, it’s Daniel Farke. He’s achieved winning the Championship twice before so probably has a good idea how to do it once more.
Fans can bleat on as much as they want about last season and why we didn’t get over the line, but I have no doubts at all for this season, it’s ours and we are going to take it and that will be down to Farkes decision making and his skills and experience as a Championship manager.
The Premiership is another story.
13.) 14 Jan 2025 08:13:32
If peeps are being objective, unbiased. one proposes that Farkey's only real impressive achievement was Norwich promotion in 2018/ 19
Definitely his second promotion in 2020/ 21 far, far less . as Norwich were a newly relegated EPL club with 1st year parachute payments.
Promotion was wholly expected.
14.) 14 Jan 2025 08:20:22
OP we hope your steadfastness is finally proved correct this time.
15.) 14 Jan 2025 14:11:33
Fawkes words are designed to protect his relationship with Meslier and motivate him if he remains the first choice. He was also very clear and frank in his criticism. it still wouldn’t surprise me if we bring in a new keeper but could depend on who is available and the defence reaction to Meslier in training.
To keep it in context, two main errors from the keeper and we’re still top. Will he make two more errors like that in the second half. If he does stay with Meslier then he has gambled everything on red and he’s got to make it work.
16.) 14 Jan 2025 16:29:06
Seems a very unnecessary huge dangerous gamble Spanish. with £150 million plus to lose
Just get promotion done.
17.) 15 Jan 2025 09:25:02
If it happens I guess he thinks it’s less of a gamble than changing goalkeepers mid season. I’m also sure he knows this will be he last chance at Leeds. I still think they will be keeping an eye on prospective keepers but perhaps get a better 10 and or striker, take more of the chances and Meslier becomes less of a risk!
10 Jan 2025 20:10:10
A quick word on Ilian, how do we think the guy must be feeling, it must be tough, the criticism has been constant, confidence is key for any player. The only other I can think who has come in for so much stick is PB, a coincidence their form suffers? I think not. Any player who pulls on a Leeds shirt deserves our support. Faults an all, they are ours. It happens everywhere, look at Alexander Arnold at the Pool. Look, no player becomes dog shite overnight, mistakes are highlighted, competency overlooked, he is in the eye of the storm and people love someone or something to blame for disappointment. Support not destroy because we are talking about a decent human being.
1.) 10 Jan 2025 21:13:17
Davey Vid
When a player is out of form/ not producing ( as in Meslier's case for 4 years) wise, not stubborn coaches rightly rest ( drop ) that player
and thereby crucially very fairly are able to give other players opportinities to do BETTER for the good of the team and squad harmony!
That's how it works Davey for vast majority!
2.) 10 Jan 2025 21:27:01
. and did you know Davey that in past 4 years Mes has made the MOST appearances of any gk in world football!
In those 4 years LUFC had 2 relegation battle seasons and a missed promotion ?
The 'supoortive' thing would be to give Mes a well deserved " rest" as well as finding better to make Leeds United a very long overdue frigging success
Side before Self
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3.) 10 Jan 2025 23:05:55
Well that is true Baz, but in those 4 years are you saying it is because of Mes? It is a team game. The thing is we become entrenched in our views, our way of life, don't really look at the wider side of things. There is a far greater tapestry. We all have faults and positives. It's not what happens but how we react that's important.
4.) 10 Jan 2025 23:21:58
Well that's how things work in your text book Baz but thankfully you are not the manager of Leeds United, otherwise we would be in the shjte.
Think I’ll trust in Farkes decision making than your small minded armchair views of how our club should be managed.
5.) 11 Jan 2025 01:49:29
To be honest I think Farke should have done the right thing def at beginning of the season. Way before hull and Sunderland. First shot on target invariably went in. Was an opportunity there to drop him considering how few shots he faced. Now it’s bigger than Ben hit and Farke has caused his own predicament. It most def now team before self. Drop him and destroy what little confidence he has or play him and risk more blunders and a defence and team that dosent trust him. Seems Farke is opting for the self solution. Let’s see how that works out. I’m still 50-50 if we will go up or not but if we don’t there will be two people to blame. Not the whole team.
6.) 11 Jan 2025 01:50:52
Well with a very good experienced gk Davey Vid I feel we would have stayed up definitely yes in 2023.
Meslier regrettably went into total meltdown mode in the crucial Palace and Liverpool games when he conceded EVERY shot ( all eleven) on target
Along with his notorious gaffes in the Everton, Fulham and Bournemouth games.
7.) 11 Jan 2025 01:57:43
Err OP you contradict yourself
This season you have been moaning about DJ's loss of form and regularly advocating DJ to be dropped for Gnonto.
Yes when it comes to out of form points dropping Meslier . he is " undroppable" in your text book?!
Where is your consistency OP dear? ?.
8.) 11 Jan 2025 03:33:06
How bad did Georgie feel with the stick he got. A lot questioned his ability and worth. He turned it round.
If mes is worth his salt as a sportsman, he will turn it around. For him, that's all that counts.
9.) 11 Jan 2025 06:59:14
Ilan definitely suffering from lack of confidence at the moment and probably lack of support from his teammates. The elephant in the room for me is not whether or not he is dropped or rested but who he is replaced by. Imo we don't have a decent replacement so is DF choosing him due to support, belief, or simply because he has no choice? The noises he is making imo indicate one thing - the board have said we don't get a new keeper unless Meslier and his wages move on. DF simply making the best of the hand he has been dealt. Movement or lack in Jan will speak volumes in this regard.
10.) 11 Jan 2025 07:34:21
I don’t disagree with benching him for a while to take the pressure off him, but replace him with who, Darlow is not a good replacement in my opinion and the club have let themselves down in their choice of a second keeper.
11.) 11 Jan 2025 08:20:07
Imo Alf your supposition IF correct of :
' the board have said we don't get a new keeper unless Meslier and his wages move on. '
is a damning indictment on Marathe and Leeds hierarchy
Mes is on ( modest) £30k a week . his wages to end of May around £600K. literally peanuts compared to huge EPL riches that's up for grabs IF promoted
Even if Mes saw out the final year of his contract that would be £1.5 million in wages. small change relatively
1) Get in a good gk on loan this window
2) In meantime play Darlow for him to prove he is more reliable than the current cooked Meslier.
12.) 11 Jan 2025 08:30:09
Baz, where is the stat about meslier having made the most appearances, in the last 4 seasons, of any GK in world football from?
Sounds a lot like a made up and incorrect stat.
13.) 11 Jan 2025 08:39:22
He has been dealt Alf? Thought by the sounds of it he is in control of ins and outs. According to his press conference. None of our goal keepers are good enough for prem. Barely champ level. So Farke should simply replace them all or the two backs ups and get a new number one. It’s a complete mess. As you say due to his lack of confidence in his back ups. But that’s his fault. According to him.
14.) 11 Jan 2025 08:45:48
That is a point Alf that the visible rage from his teammates is something that perhaps should not be displayed on the pitch. I remember Firpo reacting the same in the game against Sunderland, especially coming from Firpo it was a bit rich.
I’m not sure it’s healthy to be doing this and Farke should stomp it out. Of course there are frustrations but if you are not showing unity on the pitch it could be sending the wrong message to our opponents.
Bryan has in an interview recently backed Meslier and claiming that the players are behind him. Even if that is not so they’ve got to keep their emotions in tact on the pitch.
15.) 11 Jan 2025 09:25:36
OP better Darlow than Mes. he played well for Wales . he mote than deserves an opportinity
Spot on Aus. Farkey is manager (not just a cosch) and has control a lot of say on ins and outs. this gk recruuitment mess is on him more than others
Who can blame players from exasperation and anger . natural reactions of players going back 6 decades with players.
16.) 11 Jan 2025 09:33:54
Brockers. it waa definitely in one of Leeds United content creators ; Kagey TV check it out. spot on analysis . check it out
Anyways apart from being wisely dropped for 4 matches by Big Sam
. and also Klaessen replacing him when he was sent off and suspended . Mws has been an ever present in league since taking over from Kiko in early 2020.I believe.
17.) 11 Jan 2025 11:18:04
Baz Wales is not Leeds United, there’s a huge difference.
18.) 11 Jan 2025 12:02:36
We were relegated with Allardyce and his decision making.
19.) 11 Jan 2025 13:45:25
2 of the 3.5 seasons were in a 38 game league, and 1.5 in a 46 game league (so already 16 games fewer than other keepers may have done) . Plus he didn’t play every game.
I’d be stunned if there isn’t an EFL keeper that has played more games in that time. And that’s before we consider other keepers in the world.
There’s no way that stat can be correct. Somebody on the internet saying something doesn’t make it true.
20.) 11 Jan 2025 12:23:28
give over OP. there is far more pressure playing for one's country
Wales have more fans (and more exectations) than Leeds United for starters.
21.) 11 Jan 2025 12:28:23
Leeds were well and truly R cooked by the time big Sam arrive for 4 final matches . little to no chance of staying up. players had given up.
22.) 11 Jan 2025 15:14:11
Well there was no point in you saying that Allardyce wisely dropped him when the whole squad had given up already in your opinion.
23.) 11 Jan 2025 15:14:46
Brockers
Meslier has played vitually evey match since early 2020.we are now in 2025 . he has been hugely overplayed ; very undesevedly and unwisely.
24.) 11 Jan 2025 17:52:25
So you made a stat up to justify your opinion, rather than just stating your opinion (which in itself may be valid) ?
Yes he played a lot of games. He did not however play more than any other GK in the world, which is what you erroneously, and laughably, said.
25.) 11 Jan 2025 19:46:49
I already told you the source Kagey TV. go watch it Brockers.
26.) 11 Jan 2025 22:14:44
Baz, I’m continuing as you’re talking rubbish and you don’t stop at any point to think logically about what you’re saying. It’s obviously rubbish, as I’ve outlined above why you should be able to realise it’s wrong even if some bloke on YouTube says otherwise.
It didn’t take long to find a goalkeeper in the EFL with more appearances than Meslier (141 in the last 3.5 seasons) . Paul Farman at Barrow has 148 - 5% more and that’s without trying hard or even thinking about looking at any other country in the world.
27.) 12 Jan 2025 03:58:49
Even if allegedly this keeper Farman has ( a whopping ?) 7 more appearances in past 4 seasons than Mes
The facts remain that Mes has been a virtual ever present 2020 to 2025.a huge number of games for him. far too many for him.
28.) 12 Jan 2025 07:15:22
No Baz, the facts are that you were wrong, you quoted (or made up lies) and you refuse to admit you were wrong.
Your arguments would carry much more weight if you didn’t constantly make things up. It would mean we’re less geared up to question and disregard everything you say.
10 Jan 2025 19:27:39
Evenin peeps, well, seems to me there is only one fact at the moment, that is we are top of the league, whoop whoop. Everything else is pure supposition. So here is one I mulled over earlier, at 25/ 1 Fulham for the FA Cup, pure supposition on my behalf of course. ?.
1.) 10 Jan 2025 21:28:54
A decent bet decent odds. Fulham last got to FA Cup final 50 years ago
Man Utd at 18/ 1 are a good bet.
2.) 11 Jan 2025 03:04:01
I couldn’t cheer for utd even if money involved so def not a bet I would make.
My information is the same as Eddiegrays, I have a feeling Milky Bar is right about the GFHc involvement, they have a lot of constraint as to Cellinos investment
Like the sound of that Andy, cheers. I think Gibbs could turn out to be very good and if BMD is as committed to Leeds as he says then he will be staying. 8 sounds about right too, cool
Now Jeff, you know you are not supposed to reply to your own posts. what's new pussycat?
23 Jan 2025 13:36:24
His run in behind and cross for the opener last night was pure class.
22 Jan 2025 21:49:47
Tis only fear drives your desires Baz and we have nothing to fear except fear itself. Believe and all is banished.
22 Jan 2025 21:42:18
Lol, cool beans Baz. Come May there may be a few portions of humble pie on the table. I struggle to inderstand though how looking at the season so far this squad is not deemed good enough. They deserve more credit than that as does everyone connected with our great club.
22 Jan 2025 19:33:27
The proposed amount to redevelop ER Alf. Worry not, all is good. Believe in what we have and what we are at the moment. January transfers rarely work and buying is no guarantee of success. The only certainty is we are Leeds and currently Leeds are good enough, I ain't going to second guess the future.
13 Jan 2025 21:23:30
Well Baz, that is because I will never stop believing. What is the point otherwise?