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29 Jul 2021 14:06:00
Gallagher will be joining Palace on loan for next season.


1.) 29 Jul 2021 17:57:39
Good, his loss.


 

 

28 Jul 2021 21:59:56
Leeds United are pushing very aggressively to sign Wolfsburg attacker Josip Brekalo for £12.76million, according to a mysterious source 'close to the player'


1.) 29 Jul 2021 07:11:00
Mystic Meg?


2.) 29 Jul 2021 17:58:27
Alfs been rubbing his crystal balls again.


 

 

27 Jul 2021 17:13:37
Italiam paper reporting to have made contact with Sampdoria for Danish winger Mikkel Damsgaard.


1.) 27 Jul 2021 21:29:00
Italian press seem very reliable with Leeds links.
I guess we will be after him next season too 😄.


2.) 28 Jul 2021 00:41:19
Alf Sports journalist role open up? Won't that be a tremendous cut in pay for him?


3.) 28 Jul 2021 15:19:42
Straight from his agent - no contact with Leeds over Mikkel and I know Victor quite well.
Another non starter then.
Tbf I think we maybe did look at him before the euros but he's added £10m to his price over the tourney, think that has put us off.


4.) 28 Jul 2021 17:28:54
Well I never 😳, I didn’t see that coming did anyone else!


 

 

27 Jul 2021 17:10:21
Jens Cajuste is apparently our current top target.


1.) 28 Jul 2021 17:29:35
Him and the other 1273 we’ve been linked with 😜😋.


 

 

26 Jul 2021 08:42:54
Leeds United make offer for23 year old Yangel Herrera from Man City. Has spent the last 2 yrs at Granada.


 

 

 

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24 Jul 2021 10:22:06
Harry Wilson gone to Fulham for those who cared.


1.) 24 Jul 2021 11:02:15
Rumour 10 mill 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱.


2.) 24 Jul 2021 11:37:33
GREAT. TIRED OF HEARING HIS NAME! ANOTHER FLOP!


 

 

21 Jul 2021 22:24:56
Man City have agreed to sign Leeds United rising star Brooklyn Nfonkeu, most recently playing for our u15s.


1.) 21 Jul 2021 22:34:55
Head turned …never no how these players will progress. brilliant at fifteen. but how good at Twenty. wish him the best of Luck.


 

 

17 Jul 2021 07:45:47
Nandez strongly linked with a swap/ loan move to Inter. Looks like another one we may miss out on.


1.) 17 Jul 2021 07:54:06
Never felt we were in for him, as he was also linked to Leeds by ( bs) media sites in previous window and nothing came of it either.


2.) 17 Jul 2021 08:40:01
Alf - all of the itk journos over here have been saying that this story was very much driven by people close to Nandez, and that while we were interested in him he was way down the list. When Orta and his team start working on any signing, they start with a long list of 20 and whittle the number to 3, which are cleared with Bielsa, before making any serious moves. The process of whittling down will, at some point, include tentative enquiries with clubs/ agents on interest/ availability, likely asking price/ wage demands etc.

Making such enquiries could be construed as having an interest in a player, but Nandez could easily have been tenth or maybe lower on the list for that position, so not really ‘missing out’, despite the best efforts of the clickbait media to suggest it a ‘big blow’ to Leeds, or that Bielsa will be annoyed/ angry etc etc.

Indeed Nandez going to Milan or wherever might actually be helpful to Leeds, as it may mean that club will not go after the player we actually wanted. Or to fund the purchase/ clear a space in their squad, the buying club may need to sell a player we want, or who is wanted by another club who might otherwise go in for the player we really want etc etc.

Orta has said for some time that at least one of our top targets, may go deep into the transfer window as it was contingent on other things happening in the market first. So don’t panic when other clubs start buying players, even if they’ve ones we are said to be interested in. It’s a sign that the market is at last moving, which should make it easier for Orta to get the players we actually want. Obviously we will occasionally miss out on players, but when Orta gets to sit down with a player and his agent, he presents a compelling case for the player to choose Leeds, and as Firpo himself said, the fact that he does take the effort (which is even greater due to the c.v. situation) to meet face to face rather than make zoom calls also helps his case.

Apologies for another long post, but hopefully it will help set your mind at rest, and might give you pause for thought before you make more negative comments about Orta etc.


3.) 17 Jul 2021 11:49:16
I so, so hope you are right Cluey but forgive me if I do start to worry. Soon.


4.) 17 Jul 2021 13:33:04
The fact is Clu that although your post is feasible it is just your opinion and you don't know any more than any of the rest of us how interested in a player we are. It's easy to say 'we never wanted him anyway' when a player goes elsewhere and of course Orta will say that to cover his ineptitude but the reality is Orta has a long history of missing out on good potential targets and signing rubbish. Yes he has guessed right a couple of times but even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day and with our resources our recruitment is a shambles. We bring in too many cheap youth players who never make it in the hope that one will and not enough time focusing on the seniors imo. That said you may be right but i call it as I see it like you do.


5.) 17 Jul 2021 14:48:11
Alf - what I wrote on Nandez is not just my opinion, but rather that of Phil Hay, Adam Pope, David Ornstein, Beren Cross etc - guys who have a much deeper understanding than any of us here of the processes Victor Orta and other DoFs go through to recruit new players. Frankly I trust their understanding and judgment more than that of the amateurish clickbait journos you appear to be relying on to inform your opinion.


6.) 17 Jul 2021 16:11:22
Alf - your view on Victor Orta’s recruitment seems to be very much based on his first season here, which I would agree didn’t turn out great. Of the failures, you could perhaps suggest a number were punts: Sacko, Cibicki, Ekuban and Bouy, with most of the others coming off the back of decent previous form: De Bock, Ideguchi, Wiedwald and Anita - then of course there was Lonergan (least said the better) . O

Of the others that year, Klich and Alioski were integral to promotion, Saiz and Jansson burnt brightly for a while, Roberts may yet turn out to be a bargain if he develops to his full potential here, and Forshaw has been very unlucky with injuries.

The next year (Bielsa’s first) , the senior permanent additions were Bamford, Douglas and Casilla, and of course Harrison began his career with us here that year too. While Douglas was again blighted by injuries, most thought Orta had played a blinder in getting him in after the significant part he’d played in Wolves’ promotion the previous season. While few will remember Casilla fondly, he did play a significant role in our promotion.

The following season so no permanent senior additions, but Meslier and Costa began their time here as initial loans, with Ben White also playing a key role in promotion. Then last season saw the additions of Koch, Rodrigo, Llorente and Raphinha.

So I would contend that apart from that first season, and since Bielsa arrived, Orta has not made any significant mistakes in the transfer department - and do I need to remind you again that it was Orta who suggested we try to bring in Bielsa?

His recruitment helped get us promoted and achieve 9th place in our first season back. Given that, I would contend that he has spent enough time focusing on the senior squad and should be given additional credit for building up our academy teams and infrastructure to the extent that our U23s will be competing at the top level next season too - which will help stand us in good stead for the future. Of course some of the players brought into the academy will not make the grade here - that’s what happens at all academies.


7.) 17 Jul 2021 18:59:48
How do you know that the successful transfers were Orta and not Bielsa who asked for them? And who are these people close to the club tipping us to sign? Nobody. They are ad in the dark as the rest of us and only say that a transfer will happen when they get knowledge of something solid. Any rumours that end up not being true they claim they knew about to make themselves look good but the fact is they just don't say anything until they see the white smoke and it makes them look knowledgeable whereas in actual fact they just sit on the fence.


8.) 17 Jul 2021 19:02:00
Wasn't Bielsa here when Orta decided JKA would be a good idea? And poveda who has done nothing. Time and again when Otra goes after his own signings and ignores Bielsa they turn out to be rubbish.


9.) 17 Jul 2021 21:29:36
I’m sorry Alf but your determination to slag off Orta is just about on a par with Berm’s negativity over KP - it’s being going on just about as long as seems equally as impervious to reasoning. Next you’ll be saying how do we know that Bielsa didn’t contact Leeds to see whether we were interested in being his latest project, rather than it being Orta’s idea to contact him.

Yes we all know JKA didn’t go well, but it is the only one in the last three seasons that didn’t, and shouldn’t be used to devalue or disregard all the good work done during that period.

Poveda started with the U23s when he first came in, and has shown promise on the occasions he’s come on as a sub. He wasn’t expected to make a significant contribution yet, and was bought at that point because he was being tracked with a view to possible recruitment and had become available. Better to bring in early, and shape his development than buy for much more later.


10.) 17 Jul 2021 23:25:42
We all have different points of view and you have a right to yours. I believe we would do better with a better scouting network. Look how we'll the likes of Brentford seem to do time and again. We spend much more than them and don't do as well.


 

 

12 Jul 2021 12:13:44
KP is Stan Collymore's England player of the tournament and once again gets rave reviews from pundits:

Daily Mail 8/ 10

England's very own Duracell bunny. He has not stopped running since kick-off against Croatia on June 13. Every blade of grass covered, every sinew in his body strained. And to think he has just one season of Premier League football under his belt. Immense.

Daily Mirror - 6/ 10

Never wasted a pass. Covered every blade of grass to force the Italians backwards. A player who has grown in stature during the tournament

Daily Express - 7/ 10

Held centre ground and gave Rice licence to roam. Effective with his distribution. Real workhorse.

Daily Telegraph - 8/ 10

A revelation, midfield spoiler and protector of the back-three. Has an inbuilt radar for sniffing out danger. Was playing in the Championship 18 months ago yet has assumed the appearance of a veteran

Guardian - 8/ 10

Tireless in keeping Italy’s threat at arm’s length. Unable to stretch them with his passing but stifled them physically.

The i - 7/ 10

The England player to have enhanced his reputation the most during this tournament delivered another assured display.

The Independent - 7/ 10

Not quite as omnipresent as Rice but as tenacious in the tackle and relentless in his pressing as we have come to expect during this tournament.

The Times - 7/ 10

Another notch on his belt in a remarkable tournament where he has established a regular position in midfield. He has been incredibly consistent, barely putting a foot wrong in the middle of the pitch.

The Sun - 8/ 10

The Leeds ace went toe-to-toe with the Italy midfield and gave everything. Shame it meant nothing in the end.

Daily Star - 6/ 10

On it from off, giving Italian midfield trio no peace and quiet. But outnumbered later on.


1.) 12 Jul 2021 12:29:16
As stated further down KP naturally very good in the press but the past 3 games especially he ( albeit understandably for a new player to international football) looked ( very) nervous, many times not offering himself as an option to pass to and passing mostly safe backward passes to defenders. Maybe that is down to Southgate?

Amyway I am excited and look forward to seeing the more impressive, more confident and far more progressive KP again under El Magico Bielsa who is wholly responsible for the progressive transformation of KP.


2.) 12 Jul 2021 14:30:03
I agree Baz thought Phillips was good in tournament just not great. I also thought he looked much better in games where Rice was taken off.


3.) 12 Jul 2021 15:11:44
Agreed Corky each time Rice went off KP then looked better as he was then playing deeper CDM
as opposed to a sort of more forward CM when Rice is playing.


4.) 12 Jul 2021 20:39:06
Jesus Baz me and your good self agreeing!


5.) 13 Jul 2021 12:28:46
Personally, and clearly biased, I thought he was our stand out player of the tournament.


 

 

12 Jul 2021 11:54:46
Michael Olise of reading has gone to Crystal Palace. I'm sure we were linked with him at some point but doubt there was any real interest - particularly at £8m.


1.) 12 Jul 2021 12:42:15
What do you mean at 8 million?
You saying that's too much?
Just as talented as Eze I'd say and so much cheaper.


2.) 12 Jul 2021 12:59:23
What 🇨🇦 said. Very strange post from you Alf.

{Ed001's Note - I took it to mean that at that low a price if Leeds wanted him they would have signed him ahead of Palace.}


3.) 12 Jul 2021 13:46:17
Indeed if we were interested surely we would have at least put a bid in.


 

 

 

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25 Jul 2021 16:33:28
Maybe he's not good enough for the Championship yet.


 

 

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25 Jul 2021 10:15:02
That's not me then!


 

 

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23 Jul 2021 07:18:34
Haven't seen any actual figures Cork.


 

 

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22 Jul 2021 06:52:51
Can come down to wages, playing time, attitude etc.

Apparently Newcastle have backed out as £13m price tag is too much.

Wolves also interested.


 

 

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20 Jul 2021 07:45:12
Career blighted by injury but q bit of a baller by all accounts. Would be good if stays fit but I worry about his injury record. However we do need a creative mid and at around £5m may be worth a punt depending on wages.


 

 

 

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30 Jul 2021 07:48:16
Maybe Leeds U66's 😉.


 

 

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29 Jul 2021 17:49:17
I'm not a Costa fan whatsoever but in fairness it's hard sometimes to adapt to a position you are not used to.


 

 

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28 Jul 2021 22:01:24
a Donkey.


 

 

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28 Jul 2021 10:15:00
A belter!


 

 

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28 Jul 2021 06:47:47
It's about who finishes higher in the table George.