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13 Aug 2021 22:20:55
Best of luck tomorrow guys I bloody hate united💪.

1.) 13 Aug 2021 23:03:35
Cheers Whacky - you too.

2.) 13 Aug 2021 23:31:07
Against them we also need a ref with integrity, no clue how they get so many dubious penalties.

3.) 14 Aug 2021 01:58:37
It gets pretty annoying, last 2 seasons they got penalties against us, same with Man City they got both and we had players sent off. and who can forget “fergie time” 6 or 7 mins of injury time when they needed a goal, I had hoped some of the favouritism would stop when he retired but they just upped the amount of penalties against the lesser teams cause they play such rubbish quiet often in recent years.

4.) 14 Aug 2021 08:52:39
Cheers Whacky - I would wish you good luck too, but I don’t think you’ll need it. Villa should have far too much for Watford tomorrow - probably end up something like 1-3. Expecting your lot to be joint top on 9 points at the first international break. Might need a little more luck in the period up to the second break.

Overall, as things stand squadwise, it wouldn’t surprise me if you end the season above us, having done some decent business this summer on the back of selling Grealish. Your squad looks better balanced now. Conversely, we would seem a little light, unless we bring in a couple more, or Shackleton and a couple of the u23s step up in a big way. Forshaw somehow remaining injury free would also help.

5.) 14 Aug 2021 12:29:24
Hope your right mate👌 I see MB signed new contract so that tells me he either has a big arrival coming or he see’s some of the younger guys coming through and thinks he can really progress them like marcello does so well👍.



02 Aug 2021 20:52:00
Surprised to see so many Leeds fans urging jack to stay at villa and tell city's money men to do one, have read lots of comments online everyone says the same, ridiculous that they can throw so much money at transfers without having sold anyone of note, 900 million in 5 years is some joke but yet pep is supposed to be the greatest manager of all time, I think a few of us guys could win trophies having spent all that money.

1.) 02 Aug 2021 21:23:16
On this it is difficult to disagree Whack Lad . the Vile with Jerkish ( and Spuds for that matter with Kane ) should tell Citeh to do one! :

£ 900 million outlay on player recruitment in 5 years with much much less in return from player sales

is FFP some sort of mirage? a bermuda triangle of token, not enforceable financial regulations? especially ignored for Manchester Citeh and Manchester United.

2.) 02 Aug 2021 21:44:42
I’m struggling with complete absence of meaningful action following the aborted super league debacle, fining these clubs pitiful amounts only gets passed down to their fans (whatever we may think of them) in the long run. And all of the clubs including the English teams should have been hit with two-three year European ban and two-three year transfer embargo.

3.) 02 Aug 2021 22:00:44
Erm, pot calling the kettle black.
In the last 3 seasons (including this one, so basically since vile got promoted) net spend of Citeh is around 100 million less than vile have spent.
Citeh have a net spend in the last 5 years of around 300 million from what I can tell (transfermarkt) .
I think most transfer fees are a ridiculous amount in general.
That being said FFP doesn't seem to count for some clubs who bribe/ scam their way out of justice and a level playing field and I've mentioned two of them above!

4.) 02 Aug 2021 22:00:47
Agreed with all the above points and yes any of us could win with that kind of squad and financial backing. I’d massively doubt Pep could have taken either of our 2 squads and gained promotion and stayed in the prem. yes he’s good but he’s always had the biggest budget and the best squads in every league he’s managed in, does that make you the best!? No it makes you successful but not the best.

5.) 02 Aug 2021 22:02:03
I’ve just read that Harry Kane hasn’t turned up for training but grealish has. Says a lot about a player refusing to train for a club that’s paid his wages for years and he’s never once complained. I don’t know if it’s paper talk or true but if it’s true there should be something drawn into contracts that they should have to pay years worth of contract money back on top of a fee the club will lose on him forcing his way out. Yeah levy may have promised him this or that but if it’s in his contract in writing then there isn’t anything to argue about and if there isn’t then he should honour what is in writing. Players have far too much power, and if Spurs had enough money he should be kept for the duration of his contract and sat in the reserves and shown that if you want to start throwing your dummy out then you will be treated like a baby.

6.) 02 Aug 2021 22:06:00
I think it's more that the more these teams get away with snatching whatever talent they like because of billionaire ownership and disregard for the rules the more likely it is to happen to us sooner or later. With football it's always about who spends the most and always will will unless proper action is taken. I genuinely believe the powers that be don't care though as long as they get fat and rich off the back of it.

7.) 02 Aug 2021 22:49:05
I have to agree 92, they tried to ruin the whole football structure in the country and their punishment is being able to go spend over 200 million on 2 players a few months later, they are effectively ruining any chance for us guys outside the top 4 to compete, how great would it of being for English football if they had being relegated down a league to teach them all a lesson,

8.) 02 Aug 2021 22:49:46
Not often we agree baz 👌👍.

9.) 02 Aug 2021 23:43:55
Whacko I hope Man Citeh complete the purchase of Jack. It's a win win for everyone. I'm sure you'll use the money wisely.

10.) 02 Aug 2021 23:56:09
Loveaway This is why I've argued for years footballers of this status aren't really employees, they're more like assets. In a normal work environment, you'd be taken through a formal disciplinary procedure and probably sacked once things went too far. It's all ridiculous because we know Spurs are soon going to take the money. You can't force a person to work or work for you even if it's in their contract. If the player won't play, you may as well sell because the alternative is no player and no money.

11.) 03 Aug 2021 01:02:12
According to Transfermarkt, in the previous 5 years and the current window to date, Citeh has a net transfer spend of £518.98m Villa has £314.49, and we have £109.45m.

12.) 03 Aug 2021 02:00:25
Hey Canada, there’s a big difference between our squad and city’s, we spent 130 million when we got promoted, that sum was spread out over about 11 players, we spent 70 million last year, 33 million this year, we built 1 team, city have 2 premier league teams that could genuinely challenge for the title, we spent roughly 200 million in total since promotion, city are ready to spend 250 million on just 2 players, after we won the playoffs we lost 13 players from our squad through retirement, players out of contract and players returning to their parent clubs, we didn’t even have any players to sell, Wesley was our record signing when we came up he cost 20 million, only Watkins 28 million and buendia 33 million could be considered marquee signings, the likes of mings, konsa, luiz, targett, cash, trez, were all bought for 12-14 million each, we had no players mate we had no choice but to buy, also we lost 3 keepers to injury in our first season up, 2 of them were out for almost a year, we lost Wesley for 18 months hence why we bought Watkins, trez is gone now for pretty much all next season hence why we bought a new winger, between the idiot Chinese tony xia almost ruining us in the championship and the injuries we have suffered since coming up we are lucky to have a team, we don’t have an abundance of players we finished last season with 4 youngsters on the bench and we will start next season with the same amount I’m guessing.

13.) 03 Aug 2021 02:08:04
And that’s just the last 3 seasons Canada, if you look at the 3 seasons before that city were at almost -500 million, they had huge spends with very little coming back.

14.) 03 Aug 2021 10:56:54
Spend is spend whack, does it matter how it's spend or on who?
By the way why do you keep down playing viles spend?
Your net spend since promotion is around 260 million not 200. And that is net not gross!
As you keep overpaying for average players I expect you will overspend for years to come to try and compete.
Citeh are the extreme (although their near neighbour's in red have actually spent more in the last 10 years net) but relatively you are going to be in the same ballpark.
It's bad for the game.

15.) 03 Aug 2021 23:50:44
Spend is not really spend mate like I said we lost 13 players, city lost nobody, we bought players to have 1 premier league level team, city are spending to have 2 premier league level teams just to be greedy and stop anyone else having them, that’s the difference Canada.



28 Jun 2021 02:46:54
Read your link cluless, agree he's not the best guy to have as a life role model but that's not why he's a coach, he's there to teach guys how to defend and with villa very close to the top of the list of best defences last season one can only think that he's doing his job quiet well.
His transgressions have all being a long time ago so hopefully he has grown up, worked on becoming a better human being, either way the day will come when he's not at villa anymore, our trajectory is upwards and I expect we will have upgrades both on the pitch and coaching staff over the coming years.
as I've said before I support Aston Villa not JT or DS, you don't turn your back on your club cause of 1 or 2 bad apples as Leeds supporters should know better than anyone.

1.) 28 Jun 2021 03:50:35
So Youngish whipper snapper Whacky Backy lad care to put some money on your prediction above of 'Vile's upward trajectory' league position next season!?

Vile will finish in what league position/ zone next season? :

A) Champions / Champions league places 1st to 4th😜
B) Euro places 5th to 7th 😂
C) 8th to 11th mid table 🙄
D) 12th to 15th lower mid table ( 🤔yes could well be so)
E ) 16th to 20th relegation candidates ( hmm bazinga, bingo 👍 😉)

2.) 28 Jun 2021 13:33:29
5th- 7th obviously the target verruca.
just looking at your profile there and noticed your greatest moment was 92 champions, from all your talk I would of assumed your greatest moments were in the 70’s when you won more leagues and these European cup finals you say you got cheated out of, considering your maturity lvls on here and your infatuation with me being a youngster I’m very much coming to the conclusion that you are in fact much younger than I.
you also said at the start of last season that we would be relegated, to then have multiple conversations on here through the season about Leeds getting dragged into the relegation scrap, careful what you wish for I can smell a Sheffield coming from Leeds this year😛.

3.) 28 Jun 2021 14:32:39
So just to be clear Whack lad is 5th to 7th your definitive prediction if you were to put your mortgage on it or even just £50 as to where Vile will finish ( or just your dream scenario ☺️)

And oh yes how ironic and contradictory ( as usual from you that you) that you keep bleating on Whack about second season relegation syndrome and then are surprised of my greatest Leeds United moment

Oh yes of course Whack lad because you weren't even born in the early 90s to even be aware of these facts that what Sgt Howard Wilkinson 's Leeds United achieved by becoming League Champions in only their second season after promotion in the 1991/ 92 season was not only sooooo unexpected for most Leeds fans but also even MORE impressive and greater for me than any of the feats under the great Revie team laddie.

Feel sorry for you Whack but maybe just maybe one day in the future in your lifetime you will get to actually see the Vile win something! ! 😉 🤣.

4.) 28 Jun 2021 22:13:58
Like I said before baz, at least I haven’t had to watch lower league football for 24 of the last 50 years😂😂 winning 1 league don’t make up for all that frustration 😱.

5.) 28 Jun 2021 22:53:03
Au contraire no frustration whatsoever on my part Whack👍 ; I throughly enjoyed the joyous experience of watching my beloved Leeds United winning 3 ( Three ) League championships

( Champions in 1969 1974 and 1992 🏆🏆🏆😃)

As I said, maybe just maybe you might one day actually experience watching the Vile win something in YOUR lifetime Whack lad: something minimal like a league cup 🤣.

{Ed014's Note - or the Championship

6.) 29 Jun 2021 00:12:00
Lol 😂😂😂.

7.) 29 Jun 2021 12:23:21
They won the coca cola cup.

8.) 29 Jun 2021 12:24:57
3 League titles ( the top league Division 1 as it was then referred to)



23 May 2021 22:35:50
Hey guys congratulations on a fantastic season, very good team to watch and enjoyed the banter all season. really strong finish for you in your first year back, future looks bright for both our clubs and I look forward to renewing our (friendly) rivalry next season 😀 stay safe guys and well done again👏👏.

1.) 23 May 2021 23:10:25
Beers Whack, well done on a season where you improved on the previous year. I'm hearing rumours that you will spend big this summer so will be interesting to see where we both end up this time next year. All the best and stay safe.

2.) 24 May 2021 09:42:37
Cheers fella.

3.) 24 May 2021 09:58:57
Thanks whack, be interesting to see who both our teams bring in for next season.

4.) 24 May 2021 17:21:19
Im hoping for 2 or 3 new faces and promote some of the youth they deserve a chance. exciting times ahead for sure👍.



06 Mar 2021 01:40:15
Well fellas, being reading down your deluded page😂😂 seems your still quiet bitter about losing to us last week, I'll send Dave over to give you some kisses to make you all feel better lol. say what u will about dean smith and Terry but they got us to the premier league quicker than MB got you up and we are ahead of you with a game in hand as ausman rightly pointed out, also better goal difference as your defence is a bit of a joke, as much as I like your star player raph he couldn't get the better of a past it 30 something year old RB, I think Elmo was so slow on Wednesday cause raph was still in his pocket😂😂.

1.) 06 Mar 2021 03:07:38
Villa first season back in the prem 35 points from 38 games, Leeds 35 from 26 games.
Also think most Leeds fans will admit we have been porous at the back but since we haven't had a single game with our strongest back 4, the fact that we have had wingers at full back, our right back at CB an u23 in defence and an AM at DM over the course of the season so far? Honestly that should worry any of the teams around us.

2.) 06 Mar 2021 04:24:44
What's happened to your banter Whacky Backy? 😊 Yet another tired, dim, lame effort from you!

Gummie spot on with the like for like facts to educate Whacky.

Whacky, I think you will find pseudo -psychiatrist Vile Dave is a bit busy with his unintentional absolutely hilarious ' John Terry demeanour ' PHD thesis 🤣 on the Vile Banter page with your Vile Banter boys in quite a tizzy between yourselves as to how bad Smith and Terry actually are!

Long may they continue! 😉.

3.) 06 Mar 2021 06:54:18
I think overall Villa were lucky to get the win against us but fair play mate you got it. The most worrying thing for me if I was a Villa fan is your inconsistency. Am I right in thinking you haven't managed back to back wins all season? That is something you need to fix moving forward but all the best with it. Looking forward to our clashes next season mate when hopefully revenge will be ours!

4.) 06 Mar 2021 08:43:03
Beilsa took 2 seasons yes, but he didn't break ffp to do it.
Most of your better players were either there or Bruce players
Terry wat can I say, I won't as ever time I post something ed deletes it.

5.) 06 Mar 2021 09:16:40
Alf, I am more worried about our inconsistency need to win more . I did say once about been lucky, got shot down buy some on here, there is no such thing as luck in Football.

6.) 06 Mar 2021 10:54:33
Whack, how do think Villa will fare against a slightly improved Wolves? Got a feeling without Grealish again you’ll lose or draw. Realistically I think Villa will finish mid table at best, that’s not a hate or bitter Leeds fan talking. Talk of Villa finishing in a European football place is far fetched as someone has already mentioned there has been to much inconsistency in your results.
You won’t like my prediction for Leeds because I honestly think we will finish this season quite strong, with a few injured players coming back and the ironing out of our weaker points we’ll finish about 8th or 9th and above Villa.
What’s your thoughts on that?
Oh and I did think Villa were lucky to get that win over us but then again Villa do rely on a hell of a lot of luck.

7.) 06 Mar 2021 11:52:12
Smith got a premier league squad promoted while breaking EFL spending rules. Think it says more about previous manager than his ability.
I think you will be a one season wonder tbh. Great start to the season but bottom half for for last 20 games. A lot will depend on if you can afford to keep jerk squealish.

8.) 06 Mar 2021 12:20:03
Chaps, we shouldn’t get sucked into his pathetic attempts to get a rise! If we ALL ignore his posts, he will get bored, go back to his PlayStation and milk and cookies from mummy.
We all know Vile have thrown loads of cash at their squad (probably breaking FFP rules in the process) , should have gone down last season with the goal/ no goal that their entire team and management knew was legit, but have no integrity, and they are pretty much a one player team (and before you spout up Whacky, I know he didn’t play in our recent defeat, as any result can happen on the day, but without him, Vile would probably be below Brighton!
If he Or any other Vile fan feel the need to post with the intention of causing arguments, let’s ignore them and hopefully they will go away.
That’s my bit, it’s time for a beer.

9.) 06 Mar 2021 12:52:56
Hey Alf, incorrect about back to back wins we had lots of them this season including our first 4 games, we haven’t won back to back since Xmas to be fair. smith inheriting our best players not correct either, he inherited maginn from Bruce and jack grealish but so did Bruce, smith brought in mings, konsa, targett, cash, Doug luiz, traore, Watkins, Barkley, nakamba, Martinez and trez. so smith players doing very well, only problem I have with smith is his stubbornness much like your own MB. smith lost 13 players after getting promoted cause they were old and out of contract and some were loan players so I don’t know how u think they were premier league players, maybe Tammy was but he’s pretty much the same lvl as bamford so no big advantage there.
1 hit wonders is strange call as we have being pretty much a constant in the premier league albeit we had a bad couple of years and went down but it didn’t take 15 years to get back up like it did Leeds, Sheffield now there’s a 1 hit wonder but villa are 1 of the longest standing teams in the top division.
I think we’ll beat wolves today and I think villa and Leeds will be close at seasons end but I think we finish top 10 and ahead of Leeds. we won more and lost less than Leeds so to question our consistency is a pretty lame shout.

10.) 06 Mar 2021 13:18:20
Last 6 premier league seasons in bottom half.
This is a one off Whack!
I expect you will end up just in top half so this is an odd year and I expect you will be bottom half again next year if/ when you sell jerk.

11.) 06 Mar 2021 13:33:54
As I have said before MG your in no place to talk about integrity after cheating your way up spying on all the other teams and if you want to talk about 1 game then go back to bamfords antics at eland road trying to win at any cost throwing himself on the floor like the proper cheat that he is and add ayling and Hernandez to that list. and yes we beat you without our best player so that tells me your going backwards not forwards, more proof of that is how many goals you shipped, we get beaten by a goal usually and you get beat by several for the most part 😂😂 embarrassing against the likes of Crystal Palace lol.

{Ed077's Note - "spying" isn't against the law and something almost every team does in one way or another.}

12.) 06 Mar 2021 14:43:50
As I’ve commented before, Deadly Doug would be turning in his grave at how Villa are going about their business today, must be some very thick brown envelopes being passed around in high places for Villa to be untouched so far.
Whack, you’re wrong about you beating Wolves today, you can see their form is turning and the best you’ll get today is a draw, but don’t go silent on us if you lose like against the blades, come and share your sorrows with us, we’re a very sympathetic bunch of guys.

13.) 06 Mar 2021 15:09:13
Excellent post OP re thick brown envelopes. #corrupt

And Whacky Backy you contradict yourself ( quelle surprise) : as last season and this season, even in the past few days you have posted you have wanted Smith out.

Whilst you forlornly try and conceal it to opposing fans Whacky
in reality you clearly don't rate Smith 🤣.

14.) 06 Mar 2021 16:21:14
Whack i Make you right about a lot smith done a great job and is ahead of belisa both took over similar teams in similar positions and smith is ahead

Villa are better than us the table don’t lie

But the disgusting way smith handled the goal that we gave them to the Sheff Utd goal was poorly done

As for the spying that was scouting and makes no difference belisa plays the same way anyway so be fair

Credit to smith and villa but Leeds and belisa despite our defence fariluty are a touch of class the way we conduct ourselves.

15.) 06 Mar 2021 16:53:13
ED it is now against the law in football since the spy-gate controversy, EFL made him stop his cheating, and as I have said before he did redeem himself after being somewhat forced due to his players diabolical antics after they scored the goal after pretending to be decent human beings when our player was injured.

Sorry baz mate but u need to learn to read I never said I wanted him out I love the fact we have a villa fan in charge, all I have said is that I want him to act faster making game changing subs and with his team selection don’t just stick to the same guys week in week out, different games require different tactics and players as you know yourself.

OP if I went silent after Sheffield loss why was I here 2 days later? I know you love me and all but I can’t come here everyday, win or lose I don’t hide, ye beat us 3 nil early in the season that didn’t stop me coming on here and congratulating you lot.

BW as usual I agree with your non biased opinion mate 👍 Leeds and villa are very close but currently we are edging it, no doubt we both spend in the summer and both improve.

Canada, as u stated we finished bottom half for our last seasons in the premier league, as will you this year, hard to finish higher when our greedy owner sold benteke, young, downing, Barry, Milner, delph, albrighton, all of whom went on to win titles except benteke so I ask you if you take those players out of the same team I’m sure u agree you are doomed unless you replace with quality which he didn’t as he sold everyone and jumped ship when his money was made, hence why Martin o Neil left after finishing 6th 2 seasons in a row, while u were in league 1 was it? Either way bottom half of the premier league is a hell of a lot better than slumming it in the lower divisions for the guts of 20 years 😂😂.

16.) 06 Mar 2021 18:05:42
Whacky Backy aka Mr Porky Pies lol 😃 I know cheating, lying and being deceitful comes naturally to Vile and Vile fans but you now full well that you and most of the Vile fans wanted Smith out last season.

and just this week folowing Vile losing to 10 man bottom club Blades you ( and others) posted on Vile Banter the suggestion that Smith needed to be replaced at the end of the season because you strongly doubted Smith could take your club to ' the next level '.

Anyway it's all fine because I personally hope that the mediocre Smith and Terry are at Vile for years to come : roll on Vile's continued mediocrity.

17.) 06 Mar 2021 19:00:32
So you admit now that this season is a one off. Good for you whack.

18.) 06 Mar 2021 19:45:32
I love it, he comes on here and drops comments to get our backs up, we collectively put him well and truly in his place and he comes back arguing like a little school girl, what a tube.
I don’t expect any reply tonight as it’s past his bedtime!

19.) 06 Mar 2021 19:49:22
Bad your reading abilities really do show why u support a team like Leeds, you know that when reading a sentence u have to take into account words with only 2 letters like “if”, example from my posts- IF dean don’t start changing things around during games and be more ruthless and positive he won’t get us to Europe, if being the important word there, and I’ve never wanted him out, BW constantly calls for MB to be replaced, does that mean you all think the same? I think not as others opinions always differ,
And at least we have a manager for next season, MB always leaving himself with the option to jump ship if he feels the ship is sinking.

Well if we are mediocre then you must be poor being 5 points behind us who are so bad in your eyes.
Interested to see how you do in your next few games maybe you will do us a favour in our European push but probably not.

20.) 06 Mar 2021 20:20:10
pigs flying overhead as you type Whacky 🤣🤣.

21.) 06 Mar 2021 20:43:32
Clearly you don’t know me MG. not sure where u put me in my place, the table will tell the story come may.




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10 Jul 2021 15:48:19
Clue, I left a comment further down for you to respond, would welcome any responses or opinions 👌.



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10 Jul 2021 13:09:10
I see where your coming from mate I do and it’s a good business plan, I guess the point I’m making is that if the most important thing for these players would be getting the chance to play under someone like MB so in theory they would accept smaller wages making the deals more sustainable and suiting your structure, but in reality all these players care about is money at the end of the day (with a small number of exceptions) hence why 99% of players will choose the club offering the most money and the only time the manager will affect the players decision between 2 clubs is if both packages are pretty similar. It’s my thinking that they work off a list in their head kind of thing…
1. Money
2. Chance of winning trophies
3. Regular starts
4. League/ location
5. Possibly the manager/ playing style
I think maybe 2 and 3 could swap places in some instances as some players happy to play bit part roles, I’m interested to see your thinking on that list, or add in a couple more things to the equation but I don’t think money will not be on anyone’s number 1, I’m not talking about the likes of Philips for example staying loyal to the club he grew up at, the scenario is 2 clubs attempting to buy a certain player, what do u guys think?



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09 Jul 2021 21:37:18
If they love him so much why do u not have a bunch of Argentinian’s in your squad? I don’t buy into the thinking that MB could make him a better keeper, Mellier is naturally talented, kiko is not and that’s why he got the chop. however there is no doubting that MB could make outfield players better and his system/ style is very good.



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09 Jul 2021 10:03:38
One can always dream George 😂😂.



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23 Jan 2021 15:34:37
Good player when we had him he was unfortunate with his injury, was sorry to see him go to be honest.




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26 Aug 2021 22:52:23
We’re all proud of what they did, very nice gesture.



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22 Aug 2021 17:49:08
They are dire.



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14 Aug 2021 23:51:46
For sure Alf, we need to fill those voids ASAP with some quality personnel.



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14 Aug 2021 19:49:43
I have to disagree Alf, it was actually our usually reliable defence that was our biggest problem, that coinciding with missing Watkins and luiz, Watkins for us is as important as bamford is for you guys they do so much work off the ball, give you so much options, we had so much possession but didn’t have that cutting edge in the final third, was impressed with Bailey, Buendia was trying to do to much, it’s a shame he was off the pitch before Bailey came on, I think once we have Bailey Buendia Watkins and traore in the starting lineup we will be a different animal.
didn’t see much of the Leeds game I was enjoying a lazy day and 20 mins into the game my alerter went off and we had to go deal with a car crash, missed most of the first half of the villa game aswel.
anyways today is finished so hopefully both our teams can grab 3 points next week.



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14 Aug 2021 12:29:24
Hope your right mate👌 I see MB signed new contract so that tells me he either has a big arrival coming or he see’s some of the younger guys coming through and thinks he can really progress them like marcello does so well👍.