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16 Oct 2019 09:14:08
so many are now starting to question Belisa. For me writing has been on the wall since Pontus left and wasn't replaced, for me that showed he wasn't prepared to learn on last seasons mistakes and build on his good work

wondering what has changed for some leeds fans? how much longer do we give him if things stay the same? if he goes who replaces

interestingly I heard Bowyer was giving the leeds fans a massive clap and leeds sulute before and after the game? could he be in line? personally i would go for houton but bowyers work at poor charlton can not be ignored.

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16 Oct 2019 18:21:02
Jose mourinhio once called Arsene Wenger a specialist in failure, think he should be ready to hand on his title!

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17 Oct 2019 12:51:35
Trash.

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17 Oct 2019 13:47:50
I tend to agree bw.
I think the next 2-3 games are crucial.
From Bielsa point of view I think he may be sniffing failure and possibly walk and from radz point of view he might be thinking maybe biesla not the man. I did say pre season biesla wouldn’t last to xmas. Nothing has changed my opinion.
And I wouldn’t knock back bowyer tbh. Warrior player. Could be good manager.

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17 Oct 2019 18:02:21
Graham souness warrior player shite manager, I go to most home games berm and no one I speak to says they are doubting bielsa so where are the SO MANY you know coming from or do you attend most games now? Most people and I mean 99% love bielsa as they are true Leeds fans who don’t wish their team to be beaten to get a manager sacked.

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17 Oct 2019 20:27:40
By “many” I guess you mean “a few” Berm? And “just a few”, rather than “quite a few”, neither of which mean “many”. With you on this one Martyn.
Everyone just anxious for us to go up.

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18 Oct 2019 10:39:14
Bermo

I think Biesla has been absolutely brilliant for Leeds United. Prior to him turning up we played a dour, hopefully type of football. Now, I look forward, every fortnight-ish to watching football as it should be played. Its brilliant stuff. It's almost as good as the stuff the O'Leary babes played at the start of his reign, and he had much better quality players to choose from and an astronomical budget too

I don't berated you, like some on here, for not getting to every possible game. You don't live close. You obviously have other priorities on your time, yet you are a proper supporter
But just empathise with those that pay their hard earned cash and attend Elland Road regularly. We are absolutely loving the football we are watching. We are desperate to watch the next game. For sure we would love to see us win 7-0 every week, but we are watching really good football and nowadays we are watching it in a full house. Allow us this moment in time to enjoy Leeds United again. don't be so quick to discard Biesla.

All you guys seem to want is Premier League football. Cardiff got that with Warnock, and how do their fans now feel about that experiment?

We will get there, eventually. But with a whole club playing to the same rhythm, the same ethos and the same quality. With fans who are proud of the substance of our club.

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18 Oct 2019 10:48:14
on here martyn. it went from we all love belisa to many on here and social media asing questions. no need to get personal is there now. you are better than that ain't you?

99% of leeds fans doesn't represent what i am seeing on social media. i don't go to many home games but also didn't realise you knew 100% of leeds fans. where do you get the time?

I thin bowyer is doing a wonderful job as manager and although early in his career is showing promise

as for belisa. i predict doom and faliure. let's see if the 99% are wrong to disagree with the oricle.

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18 Oct 2019 10:49:38
as for true leeds fan. go do one. i never wish for leeds to be beaten, i resent any insinutation i ain't a proper leeds fan. just from my point of view i don't think MB is a good manager. great phylosiper of football yes but manager who wins stuff of achieves team objectives. never in a million years.

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18 Oct 2019 11:03:54
Bermo

I look at social media too and I can guarantee you are wrong. 99% of fans are NOT against Biesla, or Radz, or even Bamford

Just by you calling yourself an Oracle, and then typing something doesn't make it true.

Only facts make things true

I think every poster on this site is mature and cognitive enough to know that Biesla is not going to manager Leeds United for ever. So to say MB will have 'doom and failure' is a bit of a lame prediction

What is doom for MB?
What Is failure for MB?

Try to be more precise

I believe I am more of an Oracle than you as i predict that Leeds United will play a game of football against Birmingham this weekend

I believe Biesla will NOT be manager of Leeds United in the year 2030

I believe you will read this post


. ooooh. spooky. i am the Nostradamus of our time. NOT.

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18 Oct 2019 11:06:52
Think Bubs has worked wonders with what he has and no denying we have improved greatly under him. But just as the team has needed to adjust to his way of playing he needs to adjust to the rigours of this league. I am not looking for his head but for him to improve as well, show us he understands this division. Comparing our style with Barcelona and City is nonsense as they ply their trade in a different arena all together, with vastly greater resources. I am glad we have Bubs but if he is only a one trick pony he needs better players than what we have.

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18 Oct 2019 12:06:43
axe

respect your views and the nature of your post

i think you make a good point about the people paying money to watch being entertained. this is not something i have considered. this is a vaild point however i still feel many would prefer a poor win over a great loss. at the moment we are having too many of the latter. i think nothing feels better than a win and nothing feels better for the city than promotion. you mention the cardiff fans. i know a few who loved the expriement as it was far better than they hoped for or expected. that all i want. leeds to do the best they can


you also misread the posts above. i didn't say 99% are agaisnt Mb, I questioned how Martyn knows 99% are with MB.

from what i have read and seen i would say 5% want MB gone.25% of fans love him and think he is god the other 70% see the good and bad but are starting to question him

doom and faliure for MB is the same thing. not getting us promoted

many laud him taking us from 13th to 3rd. I agree although argue other managers have done better.

now moving on from that him taking us from 3rd to anything other than promotion is a step backwards and faliure and my opinion a sacking offence. well done for getting us 3rd now finish the job or leave.

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18 Oct 2019 15:01:54
Between the Bielsa out and Bielsa can do no wrong camps lies the middle ground which 99% of supporters follow. I know coz I asked all of them. Apart from one having his piles done so did not like disturbing him in his time of pain. He is a great manager who plays attractive attacking football but his latin, macho, stubborn streak makes him vulnerable, and open to criticism.

The boring win versus the flamboyant defeat has exercised my mind for many a day and altho there is no definitive answer, today I am leaning towards the boring. Another flamboyant year in the Championship is too much to take. Rather the "one nil to the Arsenal" approach and win trophies and titles galore. Of course all that goes out the window when Qatar Billions come in and we buy who we like, but in the meantime.

For all Bielsa is criticised, he is our manager. For all he makes wrong? decisions, he is our manager and until that changes he has my support (tho I do question him. Often) and all of you here on this forum, wherever you live, however many games you see, does not matter. You all, in your own way, feel for Leeds, live and die for Leeds.

We can all see the light at the end of the tunnel. We are moving the right way (tho not quick enough for some) . We are all revelling in the football offered and, I think you will agree, that with a few tweaks the glory days will return. Today is for enjoying, made sweeter by some of the darker days, not that long ago.

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18 Oct 2019 15:13:11
Bermo

Can totally understand your desire for boring wins. Absolutely no problem with that mentality. And it shows your desire for Leeds

And its brilliant that you can see my point of view about just loving the fact I am looking forward to the next match and all the skills on show

We are totally different, yet we both love Leeds.

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18 Oct 2019 16:27:38
lodis and axe great posts and behind them 100%

I am negitive but even i can see the plus side. not that long ago we had bates. then we had the hock

i get frustrated and i expect better from us under MB but it is a hell of a lot better than it has been since grayson (who i loved and his team spirit) and long may that continue.

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19 Oct 2019 09:46:58
Berm I said 99% of people I talk to the the whole bloody crowd, social media is just that media, journalism for sheep, say it enough times and I will believe, you have a right to your opinion, yes you dislike Philips and yes you dislike radz and bielsa but be careful what you wish for. And I do remember reading a post by you while I was not posting saying you hoped we got beat so the manager got fired so don’t have a pop at me I didn’t post it, al this anti Philips anti radz anti bielsa trash is getting boring mate try getting behind them 100%.

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20 Oct 2019 10:18:49
Bielsa is a god. End of.

Even Jesus couldn’t work any miracles with the rubbish we have in our squad. What Bielsa is doing with a bunch of average players makes water into wine look like a cheap parlour trick.

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16 Oct 2019 08:34:33
There is an understandable clamour for Eddie to start given his England form, but the England youngsters know how to cross a ball. At Leeds Eddie would be waiting for Alioski to beat the first man, Douglas to show up, Clarke to start, Harrison to do anything and Costa to prove he is a £15 million player.
Strikers need service and our wingers do not provide that anywhere near enough.

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16 Oct 2019 11:46:07
Totally agree Will. To get Nketiah in and expect the goal flood is foolish. It's all about supply. If you want a man to run for 90 mins nonstop then Alioski is the one. To provide a pinpoint cross, maybe not. Harrison just frustrates. He probably has it just, just, well he frustrates! Clarke maybe but he is going then the only one lrft is Costa who has shown he can do it and seems to link smoothly with Eddie. MB give them a go, please.

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16 Oct 2019 13:31:11
leo whose expecting a flood? a steady stream will do, we need goals simple as that really, there's a reason paddys had more clubs than phil Mickelson, a striker who does not score in all fairness how can it be justified?
Is there a personal reason why Bubs won't start Eddie? Because it totally defies logic that you have in your squad a lad who knows how to hit the onion bag yet he persists with paddy who has 4 goals,3 of which Nora Batty would have scored .

Eddie has now come out and said he's not happy with the current, and who can blame him, we have to believe if he had the amount of game time as paddy than the goal tally surely would be higher just like our points tally.

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16 Oct 2019 16:19:22
DIsagree we are not creating chances. Look at how many great chances Bamford has missed and tell me Eddie wouldn’t have bagged a fair few of them. That’s what frustrates the he’ll out of me. Disagree on the Pontus thing - think white is a far superior player so don’t see how you can say letting Pontus go without replacing him is an issue we have replaced him with an upgrade. Berardi v struik another matter (an a another e ample of misplaced loyalty) .

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16 Oct 2019 17:32:07
Maybe because he’s lazy in training.

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16 Oct 2019 17:53:42
Martyn slow day at the beach. lol. Don't think it's anything to do with Eddie being lazy in training, don't think he is at Leeds through bielsa's choice. Bielsa likes bamford, obvious that he rates him more.

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16 Oct 2019 19:10:49
Bit cloudy mezz so had to source a gallon of San Miguel.

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16 Oct 2019 19:22:24
A bit cloudy, would take that mate. Enjoy the beer!

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17 Oct 2019 13:44:43
How come we miss so many chances then if no service?

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17 Oct 2019 20:31:10
His “England” form, is in fact “England U21” form, which is a long reach from the championship. Before anyone mentions his form pre season for Arsenal, they were “pre season friendlies”. No doubting the lads talent, but he has also missed a few when he’s come on as sub, and is not the messiah.

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18 Oct 2019 14:07:18
I can only think that the predatory style of Eddie does not suit Bielsa. Somewhat shortsighted I would agree. Where would some of the great teams be without their "fox in the box" and after all what is this game all about. So maybe he doesn't track back. Maybe he doesn't defend but he may get you the 20/ 30 goals that will change your season. I just cannot see the logic in not trying him. We are not getting many goals now from a striker so what's to lose?

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15 Oct 2019 09:07:32
Anyones views on Bravo resigning?
Hes tech director at Qatari FA also i think is that a good or bad sign with the link to the filthy rich Qataris supposedly interested in buying into Radz? Hard to make this 1 out .

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15 Oct 2019 10:01:29
Only interested in himself - no love for the club. Good riddance.

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15 Oct 2019 14:41:27
Too right Alf. His feelings for Leeds were summed up for me in his trying to nick Corberan for another of his projects. Delighted to see the back of Bravo, the parasite.

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13 Oct 2019 09:50:18
Bristol city already lining up to take Eddie in January should arsenal recall him. Would not be surprised if this happens as said this before if bielsa doesn't rate of trust him then someone else will use him. Really don't get why our club took him if he doesn't fit bielsa's style, and even more frustrating that we keep flogging a dead donkey in Bamford. Baring injury to bamford, don't see what has to go in Eddie's favour to get a game, then again he would play Roberts up top.

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13 Oct 2019 10:25:26
Can’t argue with any of that Mezzer!

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13 Oct 2019 10:45:54
Good it really bothered.

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13 Oct 2019 17:39:00
We brought Mujica in as well who is now sat watching telly as not even making squad at his loan club. Surely we have some plan for these guys when we bring them in. Could understand Eddie sat on bench if we were scoring loads of goals but we aint. Can see Arsenals point players need time on pitch to show what they can do if he is not getting it then its wasted time for Arsenal.

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14 Oct 2019 10:34:41
Another example of Orta doing what he wants rather than actually bringing in players that the manager wants. Bielsa wanted Kent and got Eddie.

Whatever the board spins about Bielsa being happy with the squad and signings coming down to Bielsa for me this has clearly not happened and the above is the best example.

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14 Oct 2019 17:11:37
Have we all ever stopped to think a bit longer term than the next game. I think these days too much pressure is heaped on young players and surely if MB is coaching him or them loanees to be better players long term then what burn them out quickly. Wait till the tougher end of the season and them let em play. Personally I would be a bit peed off if I was Arsenal and we got back a worn out battered and blue player after a long season in the hardest league. If I loan or borrow something then to give it back the same or better condition from when I loaned it means I can always borrow again. Look at Ben White and how he has grown too. Long season be patient although as Leeds fans we are never easy to please. MOT.

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15 Oct 2019 10:29:10
Sorry Gray but i think Arsenal will be wondering why their player is not out on the pitch gaining experience, and you loan players to improve your squad not wrap them in cotton wool and return them in the same condition as they came. Think they will be expecting us to improve him, he can get U23 games with his own club. White is a good example of what to do with good players, play them. Even Bubs is surprised at what a good player he is but he as only found that out by playing him. If Eddie is not Bubs sort of player then we are wasting every ones time having him here.

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15 Oct 2019 11:33:37
Yes bieslabud I get it and see where you are coming from. I would love to see him play and score but what if he starts getting a run of games in and they don't go in for him. I am sure they fans would be saying different and it's all about confidence. I guess time will tell.

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15 Oct 2019 22:09:06
It’s a long season and it’s guaranteed Eddie will get his chance. Good post Gray.

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09 Oct 2019 13:31:38
Phil Hay has said that Bielsa is not sure about Nketia and that Bamford's recent form has increased his grip on the starting place. Christ.

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09 Oct 2019 18:56:08
Another 6 games without a goal should see Bamford secure his place for the rest of the season then. Can just see Eddie being recalled by Arsenal in January and loaned out to a team that can use him.

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09 Oct 2019 20:42:50
Him and Clarke, then watch them rip the league up.

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10 Oct 2019 15:02:39
Is Bamford auditioning for the Mick Jones role then bring on Eddie for the Alan Clarke role.
Just a thought, if Bamford is doing so well holding the ball and bringing others into play how we are still not scoring goals? From anyone.

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10 Oct 2019 18:18:29
Bambam is auditioning for the role of Donkey in Shrek.

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11 Oct 2019 16:16:34
Bamford has played really well in all other areas, it's just not happening in front of goal, I do think if we put him with Eddie it could provide goals .
Not convinced about Costa and if the price tag is anything like I have seen quoted then I'm afraid we are overpaying .

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08 Oct 2019 22:52:05
Bermo did you ever predict Calzaghe would get beat? Just interested as I follow a bit of boxing myself and think he was the best British boxer we have ever had. Mate of mine thought Froch would have done him. I don't think he would have got close.

Josh Warrington! Now that lad is going to take some beating.

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09 Oct 2019 12:08:47
Don’t jinx Josh please Malta. Can’t wait til Saturday night! Pablo on the ring walk too!

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09 Oct 2019 20:37:01
Josh is one of my best friends son.

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10 Oct 2019 11:52:10
My mate is one of his main sponsors. Ringside every fight. Josh is a good un.

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11 Oct 2019 16:11:44
jealous!

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05 Oct 2019 22:50:45
What is Bielsa talking about when he mentions the 3 big parts of the game? Something about Harrison.

{Ed033's Note - Meat and potatoes?

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06 Oct 2019 10:53:55
Canada Venture it's possession, creating chances and sticking them away. Personally, I think he's lost the plot, anxiety has crept in and he's a ripe candidate to enter Martyn's Bexley wing once the Big Fella returns from Lanzagrotty with new Spanish girlfriend in tow.

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06 Oct 2019 11:50:35
Doesn't seem to fit with him talking about red card and penalty. I was assuming it was some refereeing error or something controversial.
I think he's been a breath of fresh air to Leeds but my lord he can't seem to see the wood for the trees can he!
For such a studier of the game I'm shocked he can't understand our repeated failures. Maybe he should watch all of our games from last year again and then it may sink in.

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06 Oct 2019 16:04:51
He turned down a blatant penalty when Harrison had his ankles swept away for him, and waved it away. Just another shocking decision.
So, the 3 big parts were their penalty, Berra’s Red, and the refusal to award our penalty. That’s my take on it anyway.

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06 Oct 2019 17:19:53
Sounds about right.
Really sick of being screwed by refs.
We are more than capable of messing it up on our own!

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07 Oct 2019 06:25:16
No one wants us out of this league we generate too much revenue for the greedy corrupt fatherless children.

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07 Oct 2019 17:09:19
I don't think Bielsa has lost the plot at all. He is a genius and getting 50% more out of the current squad than any other manager would be able to. Problem is most of our players are not up to it.

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09 Oct 2019 16:01:14
You legend alftupper! Post of the month!

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02 Oct 2019 00:06:55
Epic performance that was!
Bamford and Dallas totally exceptional. Bamford said he loved that in interview afterwards. 👍👍
Klich and Harrison go missing for me at times tho.
Big worry about Coops and Shacks but we will see how good this squad soon.
Great feeling to hold on to a lead at last, but credit Johnstone in the brom goal for some first class saves.
Top of the tree again. Well done to all
MOT.

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02 Oct 2019 20:43:07
Losing Coops and Shack for 4-6 weeks is a blow, for sure. Berra to start at the back, and Tyler to take over from Shack, with the option of moving Dallas in his place, with Luke coming on back right.

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