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Team: Leeds United


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Favourite player: Tony Yeboah


Best team moment: Becoming last First Division Champions


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14 Sep 2021 13:55:32
We are appealing Struijk’s red card. Phil Hay reported in The Athletic this morning that the Club was expected to do so, and has now said confirmation has been received that the relevant papers have now been submitted to the FA.

Given that former referees are reported to have said the challenge didn’t merit a red, and perhaps more pertinently Harvey Elliot has said it didn’t, you’d hope the appeal would have a good chance of being successful.


1.) 14 Sep 2021 14:49:54
One thing against us Clueless, we are Leeds.


2.) 14 Sep 2021 15:05:36
In the meantime while the appeal goes through does that mean we can play Struijk against Newcastle or will a decision have been reached by Friday?


3.) 14 Sep 2021 15:59:41
I know, AGM. I was going to say that. The Leeds element of the case would stick out like an exceedingly sore thumb if the decision stands, given the precedent would seem to have been set by a very similar case involving Heung-min Son last season.

Alf - According to Leeds Live, the decision should be known tomorrow at the latest.


 

 

10 Sep 2021 22:48:05
This evening, the Club apparently tweeted a picture of Raphinha in training, with the message ‘R10🔥’.


1.) 11 Sep 2021 10:20:52
That's true.


 

 

07 Sep 2021 23:11:56
That lad Haaland looks a good prospect. 🤪

Clearly Orta didn’t know what he was doing when Leeds tried to sign him from Molde in 2019, bringing him over to see all the Club’s facilities etc. Thankfully Red Bull Leipzig were able to blow our offer out of the water.


1.) 08 Sep 2021 14:31:11
Clu Erling would have been a slight upgrade on Jay Roy Grot.


2.) 10 Sep 2021 08:59:23
Jay-Roy Grot clearly had the physical attributes to be a real handful at Championship level, being built like the proverbial brick s#*thouse and with a decent turn of speed. He’d been capped in the Dutch age group sides and already had a season in the Eredivisie, with 17 starts and 5 goals in the regular season and another goal in a relegation playoff match - not bad for an 18 year-old who’s manager kept switching his position, principally between RW and CF, but also with a game each at LW and as a secondary striker. Fiorentina had tried to sign him before he came to us, but couldn’t agree a fee with NEC, so overall he seemed like a decent prospect. Having joined us with the season already started, he apparently really struggled to settle with the move away from Holland, and getting dogs abuse from some of the fans probably didn’t help the lad. Having not managed to put a marker down in that first season he was probably never going to be able to make the cut when Bielsa whittled down the squad. He may have developed under a different manager here, but obviously we’ll never know.


 

 

24 Aug 2021 08:39:37
Rumoured to be interested in Thierry Small, 17 year old left back who’s just ripped up his scholarship contract at Everton as can’t see clear pathway to first team there. Villa and Saints said to be among other interested clubs. I hope we are on for him and convince him to choose us. We all know we are short of left backs at the Club, with a winger playing there for u23s. Small was playing with Toffees u23s aged 16, is well built and athletic, good defensively but also with skill and pace to be a wing-back. Him and Drameh at full back in years to come would be a scary prospect for many opponents.


1.) 24 Aug 2021 12:07:08
He’s signed for Southampton.


2.) 24 Aug 2021 12:40:08
Yep. Gone to Saints.


3.) 24 Aug 2021 12:58:57
Cluey Wrote about this guy months ago quipping if he lined up with Robin, we'd have a Small Koch in our side. Baz subsequently replied to my post with numerous paragraphs indicating he had a lot of knowledge in this area. 🤣.


4.) 24 Aug 2021 13:43:39
Just heard on the radio that Saints have brought the lad in. Pity, he could have been an excellent addition to the u23s, and great prospect for the Club.


5.) 24 Aug 2021 18:18:40
georgey leave my lunchbox out of this lol.


6.) 24 Aug 2021 18:55:52
George - sorry, obviously so long ago I’d forgotten all about it.


 

 

23 Aug 2021 11:22:22
According to Phil Hay, Poveda looks to be heading out on loan, probably to Blackburn. That move would make perfect sense. The lad clearly has talent, and needs game time to aid his development. Obviously he’s at a stage where he needs to be playing senior football, and keeping him in the u23s would also reduce playing time for the new lads, and have the potential to dampen an otherwise positive and energised atmosphere among that squad. His development seems to have plateaued here, to the extent that Summerville has overtaken him. Hopefully he gets the loan move and uses it to really kickstart his career. If he does so, we could have a good player on our hands.


1.) 23 Aug 2021 12:22:12
If it hasn’t been kickstarted by now then he’s going to be a nearly player, get him off the payroll he’s a Adrian 2:0.


2.) 23 Aug 2021 12:54:19
Definitely Martyn.


3.) 24 Aug 2021 03:51:40
Clue First thing you've posted I disagree with. Martyn is correct but wasn't correct when he said something similar about the boy Wilks. Poveda out of his depth in PL and he won't pull up trees in Blackburn nor dance on their cobbled streets. Talent yes but doesn't know what he's doing on pitch and zero end product.


4.) 24 Aug 2021 08:47:42
We’re is silks now George?


5.) 24 Aug 2021 09:07:55
Sorry to disappoint, George. You’ll have seen the quotes from Orta re seeing how Blackburn had helped Harvey Elliot’s development, and hoping that they can do the same for Poveda. Maybe I should have put the IF and COULD in capitals to stress my meaning in the comment above. Clearly it’s down to him to use this opportunity, to put some serious work into developing some end product. He needs to give his head a serious shake and realise he’s in danger of wasting his talent; stop thinking street football and orientate himself to the dimensions of the pitch instead. Maybe he’ll be inspired by fellow South American diasporant Ben Brereton Diaz. He’s got a season to work on it. In a way, he’s been put on notice - sort yourself out and there’s a way back. If not, you know what’s coming.


6.) 24 Aug 2021 13:00:46
Martyn He's at championship side Hull City as a 1 in 3 game goal scorer. Hardly Dom Poleon.


7.) 24 Aug 2021 13:03:12
Cluey You can put a fork in Poveda. He's League Two standard. There'll be no welcoming committee upon his return in 2022.


8.) 24 Aug 2021 17:23:19
He’s hardly Danny ings either George and quite a journey man for a lad his age.


 

 

 

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27 Sep 2021 10:32:33
Quick update on Mateusz Bogusz. He was on the bench for the home match v Oviedo, coming on for the last half hour. Disappointingly it was two Oviedo subs who changed the outcome, combining in the 72nd minute for the equaliser in the 1-1 draw.

Any concerns that it had been Javi Lara, the man who started ahead of Bogusz, that had opened the scoring in that match, were quickly dispelled when Bogusz started in last weekend’s home game v Burgos. And he took little time to return to scoring form, with a 15th minute 30+yard scorcher, bending beyond the keeper’s reach into the top right corner. Imagine him and Joffy playing together for us - opposing keepers would be on tenterhooks all match every time one of them was on the ball within 40 yards of the goal. He was taken off just before the hour mark as part of a planned double substitution, and Ibiza extended their lead 20 minutes later, to close out a 2-0 win, leaving them 4th in the table after 7 matches. Next up is a match at 6th placed Eibar.


1.) 27 Sep 2021 13:44:07
#boguszwatch

Get him back in Jan - swap with Roberts.


2.) 27 Sep 2021 14:22:03
indeed recall Bogusz.


 

 

26 Sep 2021 22:50:53
Thought we were unlucky yesterday. If that Raphinha shot had gone in rather than hitting the post, it could have been quite different. I also feel that if one of our players had led with an arm into Fabianski’s face they’d almost certainly have been sent off.

Positives from the game were that Rodrigo played well and Shack and Cresswell both made strong cases for further involvement. Dallas was marginally better than previously this season. Unfortunately Roberts did little to strengthen his case, and it would probably have been better for Summerville to be brought on for Raphinha instead, as he showed some promise when he eventually came on.

Looking forward to next weekend, I’m guessing Bielsa will be trying to come up with a plan to shackle Ismailia Sarr. He’s a bit tricky and certainly rapid, and would seem to be their greatest threat. Definitely feels like a must win game.


1.) 27 Sep 2021 05:48:20
Cluey If we lose, Bielsa should go. His position would be untenable.


2.) 27 Sep 2021 11:16:39
Really George, untenable! I think the Arsenal manager job was that last year, have some faith, too many injuries simples.


3.) 27 Sep 2021 13:10:12
I agree that I do not think he should go but I would like to see some positive tweaking for Watford. Not a Plan B as that would be far too radical, and far too optimistic. I would however point out that other teams have injuries but other teams (bought in the summer) have better benches. I really think that now is the time to try young blood as what can they do worse?


 

 

24 Sep 2021 08:28:20
Interesting to see that, when asked by Phil Hay about former assistant Diego Flores taking up his first managerial role, Bielsa said that he always recommends/ encourages people working with him to leave, to follow their own dreams. It’s a further insight into his personality and approach to football - very much into the project, but not possessive of it, building something that will last well beyond his involvement and not for his personal achievement/ glory. That is why is is so engaged in the academy and proper investment in it (both players and infrastructure) even though it is likely most of those players will be nowhere near their peak while he is still in charge.

I also note that some muppets are speculating on social media whether it is coincidental that our downturn in form and spate of player injuries have happened after Diego Flores left. That’s an incredibly lazy narrative to be pushing. If they’d bothered to do any research they’d have seen that while Flores became manager of Godoy Cruz in Mendoza, Argentina at the start of this season, he actually left Leeds at the end of June 2020, just after our promotion - and we did rather well last season even though he’d left.

He’d been working with Bielsa since Marseille (July 2014) and felt a need to recharge his batteries back in Argentina before deciding what to do next.


1.) 24 Sep 2021 09:17:28
Just to correct my comment above, while Flores took charge of Godoy Cruz near the start of our season, his first game was on Matchday 10 of 25 in the Second Phase of Argentina’s Primera Division, after the sacking of the previous manager. He’s started well, with a 4-0 victory, then 4-1 and a 1-1 draw, to take them to 7th, followed by a penalty shootout victory over Racing Club in the Copa Argentina Round of 16. It’ll be interesting to follow his progress, having apparently adopted some of Bielsa’s coaching traits, though apparently favouring 4-2-3-1, which seemed to be the formation Mark Jackson used to such good effect in the u23 victory v Liverpool.


2.) 24 Sep 2021 11:51:23
If Flores does well, possible Bielsa replacement so getting experience elsewhere could help us long term.


3.) 24 Sep 2021 17:41:30
Him and Corberan. Which one?


4.) 24 Sep 2021 19:24:13
The best Leo.


 

 

23 Sep 2021 10:38:34
Just one final thought on Tuesday night. If I’d been in Bielsa’s position, I’d have been tempted to have allocated the back 4 and DM roles differently - with Firpo playing at left CB alongside Cresswell, as he has played there previously for Real Betis. That would have left the others in more customary positions - Shack at RB, Dallas LB and Phillips DM.


1.) 23 Sep 2021 10:58:28
Pressed send again when halfway through the post.

Was going on to say, that I would have been thinking that would give us a better chance to win that one game - with, an balance, players having greater familiarity with their roles, both individually and collectively. It might have worked out better than it did over the 90 minutes, but might not.

However, I suspect Bielsa may have been looking at a slightly bigger picture. For our season as a whole, it is probably far more important for Firpo to get used to playing LB within Bielsaball, and starting to develop and understanding with James. Playing him at CB would have disrupted that development process. That he chose to play Shack at DM, rather than keeping him at RB, with Dallas at DM maybe also pointed to his thinking for the rest of the season - checking whether Shack might be a viable backup for KP, given the struggles of Koch and Struijk in that position. Having watched the game on LUTV, I thought Shack did quite well. I’d be interested to know thought of others who’ve seen the game, or indeed were actually at Craven Cottage.


2.) 23 Sep 2021 12:46:13
I saw the game on TV. Shack had a better game at DM than some others that played there. He was better at RB though imo. No reason he couldn't grow into that DM role more though. I thinkbthe second point was what Bielsa had in mind with Firpo, he needs to get used to his regular position first ideally.


3.) 23 Sep 2021 13:59:35
Is it possible for Drameh, Cresswell, Cooper, Firpo. or is Coops injured? I would have no worries seeing that on the teamsheet especially as KP would be covering.


4.) 23 Sep 2021 15:04:38
Thought u kicked it mid post.
So happy u didn’t. 👍.


5.) 23 Sep 2021 15:07:54
Leo - I’d love to see Drameh in at RB, even with Ayling fit. But I guess it’s more likely Shack will be in there. Don’t think Coops injured, guess they didn’t want to risk the only fit first team CB against Fulham.


6.) 23 Sep 2021 16:30:09
Reading reports of Bielsa’s presser, looks like he would definitely have been planning to play KP at CB again if Ayling out v Hammers, but Cresswell’s performance at Fulham has given him pause for thought. Previously it’s been said that when making decisions on whether to put in u23s he looks at how the 1st team regulars respond to them. So, as well as Cresswell’s own good performance on Tuesday presumably Bielsa will have noted the evident confidence other players had in passing, and giving responsibility to him during the game. Hopefully he gets the start on Saturday.


7.) 23 Sep 2021 16:51:05
Guess the U23 lineup tomorrow evening at home to Blackburn might give some pointers. Possible Struijk will start for them again, to help maintain his fitness.


 

 

21 Sep 2021 23:39:16
Sounds like an interesting day for Dan James. His Son delivered in Manc this afternoon, pity he was born on wrong side of Pennines, but I guess DJs girlfriend will have been involved with the gynae teams over there, so best for continuity of care etc.


1.) 22 Sep 2021 07:03:57
Lmao Clueless, your all heart

Are we going to get an analysis of the day?


2.) 22 Sep 2021 07:31:58
James using the sucked thumb celebration for his new born I believe?


3.) 22 Sep 2021 08:53:52
Would seem so Alf. He clearly also appreciates Bielsa and the Club ensuring he was able to be there for the birth, and even have an hour just with his other half afterwards to savour the moment, before he was whisked off to Fulham by helicopter to be there in time for the game. He seems to have put in a decent shift both offensively and defensively, and of course he stepped up during penalties. The whole day should give the lad a real lift in his confidence, and his feeling of belonging at Leeds.


4.) 22 Sep 2021 14:21:22
he certainly showed some flashes of real quality and should get stronger. seemed a bit lightweight against the physicality of Fulham at times but quick feet and at least one or two of his balls into the box deserved a quality finish.


 

 

 

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16 Sep 2021 15:27:59
Saw some reports suggesting Barcelona wanted a loan deal - presumably because they’re strapped for cash at the moment. Other reports saying Bielsa wanted Rodrigo to stay here.

Either way, if it was last minute, we wouldn’t have had time to bring in a replacement, either at striker or CAM. So, despite his patchy form, accepting the deal would have weakened our squad depth further.


 

 

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14 Sep 2021 15:59:41
I know, AGM. I was going to say that. The Leeds element of the case would stick out like an exceedingly sore thumb if the decision stands, given the precedent would seem to have been set by a very similar case involving Heung-min Son last season.

Alf - According to Leeds Live, the decision should be known tomorrow at the latest.


 

 

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10 Sep 2021 08:59:23
Jay-Roy Grot clearly had the physical attributes to be a real handful at Championship level, being built like the proverbial brick s#*thouse and with a decent turn of speed. He’d been capped in the Dutch age group sides and already had a season in the Eredivisie, with 17 starts and 5 goals in the regular season and another goal in a relegation playoff match - not bad for an 18 year-old who’s manager kept switching his position, principally between RW and CF, but also with a game each at LW and as a secondary striker. Fiorentina had tried to sign him before he came to us, but couldn’t agree a fee with NEC, so overall he seemed like a decent prospect. Having joined us with the season already started, he apparently really struggled to settle with the move away from Holland, and getting dogs abuse from some of the fans probably didn’t help the lad. Having not managed to put a marker down in that first season he was probably never going to be able to make the cut when Bielsa whittled down the squad. He may have developed under a different manager here, but obviously we’ll never know.


 

 

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01 Sep 2021 17:59:44
One of the things DJ said after signing was that he was looking forward to learning every day. That could be seen both as reflecting positively his expectations of the coaching environment he’s joining under Bielsa, and casting a little shade on the one he’s just left.


 

 

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31 Aug 2021 17:55:42
Alf, as you said yourself - they were recruited to bolster our Championship side - their moving on does nothing to support your contention re resources going on buying for the U23s. Had we still been in the Championship, they would have been decent squad players for us.

The lads we’re buying now are recruited to slot into our Prem side in the next year or two, and makes total sense. If we waited until they were Prem ready, we’d be paying £10-25m+ for each of them, and we’d still need to mould them to Bielsaball before they could be fully effective for us.


 

 

 

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27 Sep 2021 15:36:06
Indeed he was Alf, but not aged 16.


 

 

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27 Sep 2021 14:39:03
Alf - there’s no way the Board would be happy with us going down. It would be a massive gamble. They’ve seen how difficult it is to get out of the Championship - it would require everything to go right for us, probably starting with choice of a new manager, and they also know it would be giving the EFL another chance to try its best to keep us subjugated.


 

 

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27 Sep 2021 12:03:16
I now see what you have done here. Some writers very loosely refer to any shot as a shot on goal (rather than describing it as a shot at goal) , which some readers (including you) might confuse as meaning shot on target. Over the last 3 games our opponents have indeed attempted 67 shots at goal, of which 23 were on target, which is one every 704 seconds (around 11.7 minutes) . Yes that is higher than we, and Bielsa, would wish, but nothing like the alarmist picture you presented with “a mammoth 67 …… and that’s just the shots on target”.


 

 

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27 Sep 2021 09:33:04
With respect George, did you dream up that statistic yourself, or did you stumble upon a cache of unchecked statistics masquerading as facts?


 

 

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26 Sep 2021 22:31:15
To be honest, when Llorente and Koch are not available I’d prefer to see Cresswell and Struijk in there ahead of Coops. Hopefully Cresswell’s emergence as a trusted option will settle some of the concerns on here re CB cover. Seem to recall someone saying recently that we really should have brought in another CB this summer.