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03 May 2025 16:04:16
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1.) 03 May 2025 16:15:51
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05 Oct 2024 09:55:09
Hi Guys,
Don't post much on here but have a read every day.
having been a supporter of the mighty leeds for nearly 50 years. i don't generally comment about our ups and downs, but i refer back to my post on here on 20 Dec 23 about Mez being the weakest link.
How is it possible that no one on the management team or owners cannot see this. This guy in my opinion has cost us time and time again and maybe cost us promotion last time. i know there are some stato's on here but Jeez, come on, one howler is enough but 20 or so. i rest my case. i will reiterate again. just my view,
1.) 05 Oct 2024 10:08:39
Fed up with this mez hate
That save in first half was world class no other keeper makes that. He then took a blow to the head. Aus saying he should take himself off and others moaning at him.
I’ve had connsission twice, both times I never realised o had it and it is awful. The ref and medical team are to blame. Not farke not mez
Mez is current goalkeeper of the year and will probably get it this year as well.
2.) 05 Oct 2024 10:34:12
It's not Hate Bermo, far from it. and sorry to say but Aus is correct what he says in his earlier post.
3.) 05 Oct 2024 10:42:11
Great post Revie the Great.
Culpabiility on not upgrading a serious liability Meslier and signing a woeful number 2 in Darlow
is directly on our owners Marathe and co, the manager Farke and the reruitment team
And as for our queastionable for yeaea medical team and physios with the latest in allowing Ampadu in particular to go back on pitch no doubt worsening his injury .
if Redbull were our owners I am sure that there would be a major upgrade on medical, physio, performance analysis etc within club .
Jury is seriously out for me on our current owners.
4.) 05 Oct 2024 10:45:49
Revie . Bermas posts are more and more delusional.
5.) 05 Oct 2024 10:46:09
Aus is right to say if you're concussed, for which the definition is a blow to the head causing confusion. It’s up to you (the confused one) to call the shots?
Do you realise how idiotic that statement is?
I’ve been concussed twice. I didn’t know what day of the week it is. That's why boxers have people with towels in the corner. It’s up to the corner to throw in the towel, not the boxer.
Sorry but this is blind hate and biased leading to stupid posts, got to be called out for what it is.
6.) 05 Oct 2024 11:02:30
Don’t know what day of the week it is but all good to carry on playing a professional game berm. Spot on.
7.) 05 Oct 2024 11:04:16
Sorry Berm where is Mezz goalkeeper of the year?
EFL championship keepers of the year past two seasons.
22/ 23 -Victor Johhanson went to Stoke for only £1mill
23/ 24 - Mats Hermandsen Leicester
By comparison Hermandsen had an expected save rating of +7.0 for the season meaning Leicester conceded seven less goals than expected, Ilan was - 4.5 for the same season.
This season to date Ilan is currently ranked bottom seven for expected saves.
It’s not hate, it’s genuine concern, it’s no different to the hate/ concern Bamford is exposed too. They both play in the most high profile positions of any player for any team GK&CF
Ilan seems a lovely lad and I don’t buy the rubbish spoken about him grinning with his old boss after the game the lad was beyond embarrassed and clearly upset.
I think he’s in the top three keepers in this league for reaction shot stopping and 1v1’s BUT he does have fundamental technical flaws and nobody cannot deny he has the potential for a significant error in him, every game.
But you’re correct Berm, in that Farke rates him as highly as you do and has frequently stated he considers Ilan the best in this league and that means he will be there until Farke leaves whenever that may be.
But for me and a lot of other people, fans pundits journalists there are ongoing doubts and concerns about Illan and I understand people wishing to share it, I have never supported personal attacks on the still very young man, but people have a right to express their concerns, especially for a player in such a critical position.
8.) 05 Oct 2024 11:04:29
I agree with you Bermo. Some on here just hate for the sake of it.
Some here would have their hearts take a little leap last night with his mistake, because they knew they had a excuse to rant.
9.) 05 Oct 2024 11:08:45
Great post Class.
10.) 05 Oct 2024 11:11:14
The irony of Bermos posts given his self proclaimed " hate " ( his own word) for Bielsa and KP.
11.) 05 Oct 2024 11:11:31
Agreed Bermo, let's see a bit of perspective here. Yes it was a howler but if we dropped a player that missed a sitter or even miskicked a through ball then we would have a massive problem, picking a team? Let's learn regroup and go again.
12.) 05 Oct 2024 11:18:36
You can hat mez for being a crap goal keeper all day long.
What happened yesterday wasn't a blinder of a bad keeper.
They tried making excuses about ball spin and divers but meslier went to pick the ball up like a five year old - knees bent, legs open, scooping with arms from the side not under it. He should have jumped on top of it but if his brain was fried from taking a knee to the head then it would explain it.
I hope those who criticise Mez see that this incident was more than likely a medical issue. In hindsight all is great; he should have been subbed, the med staff should have done more.
However, our priority now in the aftermath should be the health and well being of a LEEDS PLAYER, regardless of how we feel about his abilities. I hope he is given a full medical check including MRI/ cat scan and I hope his health is ok. Maybe, the knee to the head may knock some sense into him and he comes back a better goalie.
13.) 05 Oct 2024 11:30:51
Baz so Dan James hitting the bar in the play off final wasn’t something you would consider that cost us enormously, promotion!
Why in your accusative mind would this not be worse than Meslier’s error.
Farke will not be offloading Mez and I for one am very happy about that.
Good luck to Mez hope he recovers from that because it must have hurt a lot to have let down his team mates and the fans.
Still the best keeper in this league.
14.) 05 Oct 2024 11:47:41
OP you really are clutching at straws.
Leeds players CS, GR, WF had done nowt all game in even trying to score in Play Off final
DJ cones on . the only player looking to score beats a man. takes a very good shot from 2O yard out ( not a 2 yard sitter) which cannons off the underside of bar bouncing down on goal line
Millimetres
Try again OP ?.
15.) 05 Oct 2024 11:51:10
. if Leeds don't go up Farke will get the sack by end of season.
Mes will leave end of season.
16.) 05 Oct 2024 12:10:02
Up till the mistake I thought mes played well last. He was unlucky with rebound on the first goal but it was a cracking save.
The mistake for the second was a little bizarre. He seems in his movement to go past the ball. Not picking up the flight of the ball. Did the flick off firpos head make ball dip sooner than he expected? Was his head still foggy after the collision with struijk?
The ball did not seem to spinning enough for it to kick up or spin past him. I could not see any turf or divots that it hit.
Even with these new protocols about head injuries very few players go off after knocks to the head. It might just be that split second of picking the flight of ball or touch of blurred or double vision. That did him.
But like the Paul Robinson Air kick or the nigel Martin one were it bobbled over his shoulder keepers rarely get away with things like that.
Was mes 100% that last 10 mins?
Should he have gone off?
Would darlow been 100% up to speed if he had been thrown on?
We have the point . Far more good parts to take from the game than bad. Disappointing but a lot of season to go. Hopefully a few players back for the next one.
17.) 05 Oct 2024 12:12:37
And OP feel free to continue to stick your head in the sand but when posters such as Dill and Class have serious doubts on Meslier. then be sure there really must be an issue with him.
18.) 05 Oct 2024 12:29:45
On the contrary Auntie Baz, my head far from being in the sand. Dill and Class are entitled to their opinions as we all are. However you seem to feel that your opinion is only the correct one and you are incapable respecting others.
That is your problem, not mine.
19.) 05 Oct 2024 12:33:07
Yea Baz, but then there's posters like you that brings it all back in doubt. No one argues Mes made a mistake and no one is arguing that he's the greatest keeper in the history of football. He's our keeper, the best we've got and the only one we have for the foreseeable. The constant ranting about is dull at best and miserable and tiresome for the forum. Dill and class are great respected posters, but that doesn't mean they are exclusively right all the time, or everyone has to agree with them all of the time.
20.) 05 Oct 2024 12:39:43
Aus yes look at the statement he didn’t know what day of the week it was, so no he shouldn’t of carried on playing but probably didn’t realise it due to the concussion. Again it’s up to the medics to sun him, like the corner to throw in the towel not the boxer. It’s same principle and I don’t believe you can’t understand that logic your just choosing not to.
And where was mes goalkeeper of the year? At the end of season awards he made team of the year as voted for by his peers, journalists and managers. How can you not know that? It’s been mentioned on this site a lot he made team of the year.
Sorry this one is not an opinion up for debate the man had concussion should of been taken off and the goal was in no way his thought. How about one of you lot take a huge blow to the head and then drive a long didtance see how that works out?
21.) 05 Oct 2024 13:48:06
The issue Ani is not merely" Mes makes a mistake " as you put it
He has been making literallyb" constant" mistakes
in a very long list of matches over 3 years .
hence the " constant" concern. ŕè
And OP, the point is this is not just a Baz narrative re Meslier it is a narrative also held by tens of thousands of others . Leeds fans, fans of other clubs, journos etc.
22.) 05 Oct 2024 13:58:04
Great post Ani, I’m certainly more wrong than I’m right on here that’s a proven fact. And I’d love as much humble pie as I could possibly manage come end of the season.
Illan seems a lovely lad, and I hope he shoves it down all of the posters (including myself) throats.
People are right to say Bogle was missing on the cross for the first goal and BA could/ should have made it 3-1
Still an excellent away performance and Sunderland knew they were beyond lucky to have pinched a draw from certain defeat.
23.) 05 Oct 2024 14:30:28
I think you are seriously deranged bermo.
I don’t think you have any inkling regarding reality or truth.
You continue to sprout nonsense because you believe it’s right and a bit like baz and thatcher. Won’t be turned.
Others on here are open to opinions.
24.) 05 Oct 2024 14:52:41
. Class it's more that you very rarely if ever criticise Leeds players performances and abilities . you appear imo very reticent to do so
So your posts of criticisms over the seasons of Meslier ability and performances really stand out from your norm.
25.) 05 Oct 2024 14:56:23
Baz and The Iron Lady . what a combo.
26.) 05 Oct 2024 15:12:21
Baz i couldn’t give a monkey’s if your made up hundreds of thousands of fans journos pet dogs etc believe Mez should leave.
I don’t and I’m happy with that.
27.) 05 Oct 2024 15:18:25
Fair comment, It’s true Baz I’m normally very glass half full and I do not derive any sense of pleasure from criticising such a young keeper. I thought we had the next Courthois on our hands after Illan’s debut at Arsenal.
But for me Baz he’s just never kicked on, I fully accept he’s played behind some woeful defences and yes I’m first to admit my hero Bielsa was to blame for a lot of those heavy defeats.
He just worries me every game and that’s just my personal view, but I know he doesn’t mean to do these errors it’s just a mystery as to why Leeds United coaching staff, recruitment team seem to struggle in such a critical area of the pitch.
Michael Cooper signed by blunts from Plymouth for £2million (rising to a maximum of 4million) has some of the best stats in the championship this season and he’s exactly the type of young keeper we should be targeting for me Baz.
28.) 05 Oct 2024 15:40:39
Class post Class . well reasoned, . thoughtful, sincere, fair, unbiased.
29.) 05 Oct 2024 17:22:48
I’m deranged aus? Bit harsh.
Mez did get pfa goalkeeper of the year, that’s a fact. Boxers corners throw in the towel on the bases that the boxer getting hit is not fit to make the call, same logic the medical team should of pulled mez not mez dubbing himself as you stated
I don’t mind name calling but when facts are facts you just make yourself look dim witted.
30.) 05 Oct 2024 18:17:30
Defending Mes is a form of Stockholm Syndrome at this point. Sorry chaps.
31.) 05 Oct 2024 18:40:01
It comes to the fact that the medical team and or the players cannot 100% tell when concussion is or isn't affecting the judgement.
You can do the test on the sideline and 2 mins later a player can be affected.
Only way is automatic subs. Then it's out of all hands.
32.) 05 Oct 2024 21:50:04
What Dill said.
33.) 05 Oct 2024 21:56:17
OP Your DJ hit the bar comparison utterly ill-founded. No Leeds fan or neutral's first or final or in between reaction was oh that was bad by DJ, a mistake. Sure I'd have loved if his shot was 5 millimeters lower but it was an excellent effort from 20 yards.
Meschubkalier mistake was from 5 millimeters from the ball, not a 20 yard target. One was a very decent effort, the other was appalling.
I realize the realities of your duties but you may as well claim the moon is made of ?.
34.) 05 Oct 2024 22:50:02
What Dill said lol re Stockholm Syndrome
And indeed Georgey.
it was the most utterly unfounded nonsensical attempt at a comparison!
35.) 06 Oct 2024 14:08:21
The reality is the same George but most I agree will not agree with that, that’s why it’s so tough being a keeper because when he makes an error he will be condemned by the fans but an outfield player missing an important shot on goal or a penalty is not.
It’s just the way it is, is fair? To my mind it isn’t.
20 Mar 2024 08:38:15
Given the Start we had this season after the exodus of Judas, judas, judas, judas judas and Judas etc DF has done an amazing job. So were we are right now is a credit to him. i sure everyone on here agrees we would have settled for the table as it is now. i however would prefer a two horse race for the title rather than a four horse race for promotion but beggars cannot be choosers so i would imagine 100pts secures second spot at least. hail king Daniel.
1.) 20 Mar 2024 09:15:08
I
Think you forgot to mention Judas!
2.) 20 Mar 2024 09:38:32
I think 101 is gettable for us. Depends what others get. going to be a scrap. That’s for sure.
3.) 20 Mar 2024 13:11:06
100 points will secure top 2 imo
The fact that 3 other teams
including little ole League 1 Ipswich ( hats off to McKenna doing much better comparatively with a weaker squad than Farke, Maresca and Martin )
are in the Top 2 race,
Leeds fans may want to rein in the
" Leeds Legend" and " King " Farke stuff until hopefully he wins league
And if we weren't to go up.
4.) 20 Mar 2024 19:10:36
What about your god Belisa… he didn’t go up first season either. In a poorer leauge with a better hand? Farke got more points than Belisa when he got us promoted.
Put that five times here… no respons… wonder why baz
I’d be delighted if we go up
Leeds go up many on this site are right and you’d have to put one thing on here
I baz was wrong! Litterally all my Christmas come at once!
5.) 20 Mar 2024 19:59:17
Another day another Berma Bielsa rant Zzzz
By the way Berma . Bielsa is not my ' god' . only 5th best Leeds manager/ coach ever imo.
6.) 20 Mar 2024 20:16:01
5th best
In all honesty what’s top four? You have supported leeds longer than me so I have huge gaps in my kwonlehde so would value your opinion on this.
7.) 20 Mar 2024 20:32:24
Berm no way did Bielsa have a better hand than Farke.
Not many from that MB side get in this current team.
Pablo, Bamford obviously and dare I say maybe Phillips?!
Ayling Douglas Cooper Klich Harrison Kiko not a chance! Forget Ben White, he’d walk in.
This side literally has much more quality and depth.
8.) 20 Mar 2024 20:43:07
Spot on Corky . not even a debate about it.
9.) 20 Mar 2024 21:13:02
Cork course he did!
Belisa took a stable team, invested 20 million in a star striker (bamford was integral to besila team) he had Harrison, klich Dallas and number of players who did a job in the prem. granted bubs improved them.
Farke had a load of really odd loans, players leaving the sinking ship and couple who stayed wanted to leave but staying. He then had misfits like firpo, struijk, James
Farke stablised the team, got the most fits firing and brought players like gnoto in from out of the cold
He played a worse hand than Belisa just did it perfectly
No one had us for promotion after a summer of nonsense even our own oricle had us 6th at best
When Belisa took over we was bookies favs…. Says it all
Plus this years leauge is far harder.
10.) 20 Mar 2024 22:01:00
Bamford cost £8m. James cost £25m.
20 Dec 2023 05:52:19
Hi Guys
thanks to some of you for the nice welcome on my last post in may.
i have to say this as it is my opinion but having had the pleasure of watching the great side i have come to the conclusion of deja vu. Reaney, Charlton, Hunter and Cooper. absolutely class then behind them is Gary ("you are the weakest link, goodbye") Sprake. fast forward 50 odd years and we have what i would call a fairly decent defence and then behind them. well well well. another weak link in Mez. why has no one thought about signing a new keeper in Jan. even if we had Maldini puyol Baresi and Cafu in defence we would still be in the same position IMO. thoughts on this one guys.
1.) 20 Dec 2023 07:35:52
Do you really want to know Revie?
It seems now the unpassable narrative has been created for young Meslier, meaning no matter what he does he will be condemned. He could save a game and win us points like against Leicester and people will still pick out faults or there’s a defensive error and an unstoppable goal will be scored and apparently people will say, he was rooted to the spot.
He can’t win basically, because people are just repeating other people’s bilge with in my opinion not knowing what they talking about.
Just parrots.
Mez’s time will come, no he’s not the finished article because of his young age and inexperience, but he is doing pretty well considering.
Think to yourself, if he was that bad that some fans make him out to be, do you think he’d still be the number 1 keeper for Leeds?
Why not Darlow? What’s wrong with him, he’s got a decent history as an experienced keeper?
Was it because he didn’t impress in his one or two games he played?
I’m no expert in goalkeepers, I just see Meslier for who he is and where he is in his career as a professional goalkeeper, but it seems there are a lot of fans who proclaim to be.
2.) 20 Dec 2023 09:33:00
I’m guilty as charged where Mess is concerned OP., I would advocate getting another strong keeper in January if at all possible. Again, he came up with three, four amazing saves against Coventry.
He has a great reach and excels at long range saves, he does reasonably well at one v ones but there’s no denying the lad has a touch of the Dracula syndrome. He’s terrified of crosses, and we have to agree to disagree over the Leicester save as it’s four yards from goal and he didn’t even need to jump he could of raised his arms and plucked it in the air before five feet two inch Dewsbury-Hall had headed it goalwards.
Miraculous recovery save yes, but teams have worked out it’s a weakness the commentators were saying it for the Coventry game that they’re putting everything in the six yard box (not eighteen) as he won’t come and punch or claim crosses.
Have a look at the Thomas goal for Coventry, we lost possession granted, the cross should not have been allowed to come in granted, Archie was ball watching gra need but the lad heads in a floated cross from the six yard line with Mess frozen on his goal line.
Now I admit it’s not a level playing field as Gio’s misses aren’t criticised as much as Mess’s errors that’s because someone else can score a goal and mask that weakness, but nobody else can use their hands or claim crosses that should be a keepers other than Mess.
I don’t think Farke will change (and no, I can’t explain why) but I believe he should and that teams will continue to score from inside our six yard box because our young keeper has this fundamental flaw.
Just my opinion, same as RTG but we’re all entitled to different views, I’m still confident of automatic promotion but gawd forbid Joe Rodon gets injured and this issue will be more obvious.
3.) 20 Dec 2023 10:06:08
I am with you Opti The times he has saved us far outweigh the one fault, he sometimes has, which is the claiming of crosses. That I think will come in time and with the help of a good goalkeeping coach. For now he punches (fairly effectively) and protects his goal that way. As for the goals conceded, re-look at them and a large portion of the blame lies with outfield players, missed tackles. out of position, etc.
4.) 20 Dec 2023 10:54:23
A better gk than gash Mes last season and Leeds would still be an EPL side no question.
Sprake made some high profile gaffes but still way better than Mes
Darlow has just 200 appearances in 12.seasons. he is mediocre 2nd stream or 3rd back up keeper at best.
5.) 20 Dec 2023 12:13:20
Darlow looked very iffy in the two League Cup games, and didn't look like saving any of the eleven penalties he faced at Salford.
6.) 20 Dec 2023 13:01:52
To be fair to Meslier, we don't know how he is coached/ advised in training.
It appears that he stays on his line too much, when he should be pushing his way through to claim the ball (which allows goals against v Sunderland and Coventry)
I have also been critical of his poor displays, but given praise when he has played well
Maybe Meslier will improve, but for me I'm getting impatient and want it now, to give us a stronger chance of gaining promotion
The Rotherham keeper looks extremely good and probably cheap too.
7.) 20 Dec 2023 13:52:15
There is no way Prem teams would be keeping tabs on and interested in Meslier if he was as hopeless as the haters make him out.
8.) 20 Dec 2023 14:21:31
Mez never fulfilled his potential and some ways has gone backwards.
But let’s be honest he by no means is one of the worst keepers in the division.
If we get promoted then that’s another story.
9.) 20 Dec 2023 14:25:13
Yes LUFCFeath I was surprised by Darlow on the pens shootout he isn't pushing even Mes on that showing
That's just it Leeroy he hasn't improved on basics and approaching 200 games
Leeds should have gone for the Rotherham keeper in summer window as I advised.
10.) 20 Dec 2023 14:36:34
Prem teams allegedly keeping tabs Alf? . yet no offers for him . from anyone ?.
11.) 20 Dec 2023 17:52:52
Window isn't open Baz.
12.) 20 Dec 2023 19:58:38
Aren't Bayern supposedly keeping tabs on Meslier.
13.) 20 Dec 2023 23:36:32
Rotherham's keeper was their player of the season. Definitely worth a punt on him.
14.) 21 Dec 2023 00:35:25
He was also in the Championship Team of the season last season Feath, I think he would be a bargain and would be brilliant as a genuine challenger to Mess.
15.) 21 Dec 2023 09:43:44
If I could add a little to the mez debate. Having seen a few hull games last season I did think darlow would maybe have broken into the team at Leeds this year. He looked good and a cut above championship level.
I think rather than regressing teams have been exploiting the weakness in mez. Packing the box for corners and crowding mez on crosses.
Ultimately I think if mez doesn't put a bit of bulk on in next few years and learn to command his box he will never be a great keeper in English football.
I think if and when we go up a more experienced keeper will be bought.
10 May 2023 13:29:53
Hi Guys
New on here, been following Leeds united since i was 7, now 59 so getting on a bit so take it easy on me. Needed to join some banter page as i am frustrated at moment with all that's going on.
WTF are we doing at the moment someone please clarify. "We've had our ups and downs" but as i live in Nottingham. i can't take any more of the Florist's fans crap (lol) .
1.) 10 May 2023 15:05:27
Dont worry Florists are abysmal away from home and still likely going down imo . they will lose all 3 of their remaining games.
2.) 10 May 2023 15:06:42
Welcome RTG.
3.) 10 May 2023 21:18:39
Nice to read you Revie. Welcome.
4.) 10 May 2023 23:19:26
Welcome aboard mate although you’ll probably regret getting on this boat!
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03 May 2025 16:07:42
EFL linesmen, think it's the latin meaning for Ar*****es.
29 Apr 2025 09:27:41
well said Aus, thought they were excellent.
27 Apr 2025 07:29:27
Deepest condolences to Cork and Woodster.
09 Apr 2025 00:13:54
The linesmen should be strung up by thier buster browns, who the hell are these mutants, sorry for the name calling but being a Leeds fan for over 50 years it still rankles the fact that we are being diddled by bias, anyway, great win, let's go marching on to the next game.
30 Mar 2025 08:47:07
I'm with you Baz, how many more howlers will Mez make, and farke (as much as i like him) cannot see how many points he has cost the club, sorry guys but i've been saying this far too long.
the confidence of the back four and midfield cannot have any confidence whatsoever with him behind them in goal.